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Ekundu01
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#11 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:15 pm

Reesh wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:06 pm Swapping GTDC for a pounce - that's just brilliant. Now players won't have to chase the renown, it will just keep coming by itself.
Added bonus - not having his guard mate close.
That is why BO would have a Leap on M2 as well they leap together like a big green blob of death. :lol:
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TenTonHammer
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#12 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:18 pm

Nameless wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:00 pm elves gap closers should counter gobbos run away procs. On live run away >>>>> pounce. SW change here on ror is another issue. Some balance changes were introduces very randomly and not well thought especially considering realm balance issues
It’s genuinely hilarious if you think about it how many tools were given to order all in the name of stopping those gosh darn gobbos or more specifically 1 tactic :lol:
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Luuca
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#13 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:19 am

I think if we keep improving the graphics animations of portals, balance will fix itself.

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Marawo
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#14 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:18 am

TenTonHammer wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:18 pm
Nameless wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:00 pm elves gap closers should counter gobbos run away procs. On live run away >>>>> pounce. SW change here on ror is another issue. Some balance changes were introduces very randomly and not well thought especially considering realm balance issues
It’s genuinely hilarious if you think about it how many tools were given to order all in the name of stopping those gosh darn gobbos or more specifically 1 tactic :lol:
Elves are truly the best race to build a hunting party to gank with.
Imagine if eye shot was an instant cast but youd need to dodge beforehand to get an 3 second window to use it (heavy satire)

e: that Borc M2 would be so sick though, I mean "walk it off" already looks like someone launching a greenskin into the air, Borcs also have the worst aoe stopping/snaring abilities (BG got better aoe snare and chosen got aoe stagger)
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#15 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:37 am

-Wl/squig: pair is fine
-Sm : its a morale leave it be
-Asw: mmm

we should review the assoult sw the same way has been done with wl...

-gap closer
-uber def buff
-ini debuff that force me to play with 10 renown less....

Duno if all of that is balanced in value think there is something at least slight off with def buff or it should not have anyway the deff buff thia strong as of now with also the gap closer.

Anyway a second gap closer is a bad design, i know any party could simple play with 2x wl but it's not the same thing aa have acess to a diff class with diff debuff yet aswell gap.closing onto someone.
Not necessary saying asw need a nerf more like a rebalance of some aspect, imo it should be able to disengage/reset more often and restart combo from range but not engage in melee that easier. (Aka start from range, shooting while getting closer towards melee, finish rotation with melee stuff, self punt; reapeat all.....it would be similar to a mara that have to move in range rather than squig which is alredy cross mirrored with wl).
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#16 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:58 am

Nefarian78 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:46 pm Or, instead of forcing homogenization, Destro could get some strenghts of its own, something that Order doesn't get to do as good.
For largescale destro have a channeled aoe punt that cant be interrupted, and grants no immunities. And an Aoe knockdown that is unmatched on order frontline.

Take our shitty highelves smallscale advantage and gimmie some of dat stuff :lol:
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CountTalabecland
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#17 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:03 am

GTDC is the best gap closer in the game. Would much rather have that for wb play than WL solo jumping unguarded to their death. 360 instant pull that can’t be avoided. Yes please.

Sure High Elfs have small scale utility, who cares. Make melee SW as useful as melee squig. Same goes for WL vs Mara for that matter if we are going to keep going down the realm mirror “gimme dat” rabbit hole.
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#18 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:55 am

Nefarian78 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:46 pm Or, instead of forcing homogenization, Destro could get some strenghts of its own, something that Order doesn't get to do as good.

From a smallscale PoV, destro needs something unique, like order has with gap closers. The gap closers ASW and WL have allow for good combos, that if executed well ensure the death of a target no matter what, Destro has nothing of the sort.
Give back borks the old ally punt skill they had , not a gap closer but funny as hell and it used to realy **** on gap closers and pulls,(when it did not kill the punted ally though)

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TenTonHammer
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#19 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:26 am

Arteker616 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:55 am

Give back borks the old ally punt skill they had
sounds like an ability with a lot of griefing potential
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Re: Gap Closer unbalance

Post#20 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:47 am

The biggest closer of all is not on any the classes but the lord in fell landing. Poison Cauldron in its present form is a free six invader for destro everytime needs to be adjusted or removed as it is idiotic.

Choppa pull is a step too far its in no way a direct match for wl pounce as choppa pull allow any class to pull into a big group and beat to death its an absolute joke. Destro are the master baiters and also the master moaners when it comes to class mechanics well done youve made the game completely imbalance now the population will suffer as a result.

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