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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#191 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:04 pm

Let's say i don't have toons on both factions.

Let's say i work 8 hours and i come home to relax and play my favorite game with my favorite toon providing the limited time i can spend.

I login and i got penalties on rewards because the server is unbalanced. Imagine the frustration. There should be no penalties at all, and don't start by saying the penalties are only on kills and not on locks etc. The game is about kills, if you want to play offline simulator mode there are many other games out there.

Of course people who make the effort to think and help the balance of the server, should be extra rewarded.

Casual players should not be penalized.

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Stickzy
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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#192 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:09 pm

Gravord wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:03 pm
Dammy095 wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:02 pm
Gravord wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:00 pm
Since that hotfix im farming sc 95% of the game time. Probably not just me.
which leads to less players in RvR on overpopulated side, its working
Last time ive checked sc takes equal amount of ppl from both sides :P
Cant argue with people who actually Think its a good idea.

Group i played with last few weeks, is now off from game again :(

Tbh i am also ignoring rvr atm. Only place to get decent renown is in sc. Or i go to a bo and stand there. I get 41 renown Per tick there on wp. Mostly in group on wp i get 1-25 renown Per kill :shock:

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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#193 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:45 pm

DanielWinner wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:39 pm
GodlessCrom wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:34 pm What if AAO malus applied to BO ticks instead of kills? Encourage people to fight instead of afk, and motivates people to either play AAO faction or at very least not lounge around on BOs.
Aye, let's chase those 2 poor gobbos with 2 warbands through a whole zone :lol:
Afking on BOs is such fun design though, I can see why devs seek to preserve it with their far-sighted and successful rvr changes.
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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#194 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:47 pm

Dammy095 wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:02 pm
Gravord wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:00 pm
Since that hotfix im farming sc 95% of the game time. Probably not just me.
which leads to less players in RvR on overpopulated side, its working
Those players in sc need an enemy, so the underdog side loses equally numbers if players in rvr to fill sc queue.
Dying is no option.

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Twohandernoob
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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#195 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:04 pm

The Malus penalties (if you are going to do them) should be on zone locks/BO's/loot.

You should never penalise killing in a pvp game like this. It's totally at odds with the spirit of WAR.

Finally I would recommend buffing AAO to be even more attractive over these penalties. Many people enjoy playing with AAO. Everybody hates this Malus.

M0rw47h
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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#196 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:06 pm

Stickzy wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:09 pm
Tbh i am also ignoring rvr atm. Only place to get decent renown is in sc. Or i go to a bo and stand there. I get 41 renown Per tick there on wp. Mostly in group on wp i get 1-25 renown Per kill :shock:
How so? You can get even ~400 renown ticks for healing in RvR.

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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#197 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:57 pm

Ravai wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:04 pm 90% of the server is afk on bos and afk leeching keeps with not a kill to their name or group yet "NOTE: This malus affect KILLS ONLY, not zone or keep locks."

I mean sometimes guys, you take one step forward and two steps back... :shock:

Gotta be honest, finding it hard to be constructive with this change, don't like it in the slightest, makes players logout instead of play, myself included. This might be your intention I dont know, seems like a very strange way of improving and growing the game though.
Yeah just happend to our group, we dissolved after barely an hour of playing because of that crap. So yeah, nothing to add a very strange change indeed.

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Hargrim
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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#198 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:10 pm

Gravord wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:44 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:34 pm
Gravord wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:30 pm Its a really bad change and i hope it will be reverted asap. It doesnt encourage faction balance, quite the opposite. As fighting is less rewarding players jump to sit and afk on Bo's as those ticks are not affected of how badly your faction zerg/dominate, take no effort and allow brain dead afk gaining renown and bags.
We already have aao and supply shortage reducing wounds of zerging realm. If thats not enough to even out the fights then the root of the problem lies elsewhere.
Then maybe instead of reverting it, add same effect to objectives? :twisted:
Would only cause even less players feeling the urge to participate.
Simple example why this change is bad - ive enter lake solo on my slayer yesterday, few meters out of wc i was attacked by WE. She didnt do so well and got proper 2h hammer crushing her skull. I got 1 renown... just because somewhere 5km away from me theres a lot of order attacking keep. Does it make any sense and encourage me to roam the zone seeking fights?

You got 1 renown because WE was a lowbie, but this probably doesn’t fit your narrative...
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Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

Post#199 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:55 pm

DanielWinner wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:39 pm
GodlessCrom wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:34 pm What if AAO malus applied to BO ticks instead of kills? Encourage people to fight instead of afk, and motivates people to either play AAO faction or at very least not lounge around on BOs.
Aye, let's chase those 2 poor gobbos with 2 warbands through a whole zone :lol:
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    Re: Patch Notes 30/12/2018

    Post#200 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:56 pm

    But he would have still gotten 1 renown if AAO was high enough. Its antifun design. Afk zergblobbers still afk on BOs and soloers/small groups now earn nothing if their side happens to being afking harder than other side.
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