so much cherry picking ... if you give details you have to give all the info and not what supports your arugement and know the difference between the both sides and how its always been
Destro have always had advantage in morale department you know why?
because ORDER DO MORE RAW DAMAGE AND HEALING THAN DESTRO (and thats a undeniable fact), its the contrast in styles
just because you guys do not run the right classes to do more damage stop always with the obvious nerfbait ... just like you got destro raze bomb nerfed to m3
wp + healing, knight + healing
bw, procs and really high raw damage...
Destro has more utility, cc and morale as a counter...
you slowly want to chip away at that... over and over i hear same arguements but always being biased and not including all the info just to try and make your arugment stronger
Now if you talk about morales, maybe revert raze bomb to m2 and get rid of m2 dmg from sorcs... then okay you maybe have some merit to your argument with that
but ME ME ME ME ... nerf this, nerf that gets so old i am tired reading about it on forums all the time ...
or maybe just give order everything and i will swap and ride that train and not care about balance...
Yes some of the things are strong, but both sides have strong things and grass is always greener... if you play both sides and wasnt biased you would see this
So the more you tweak something and then radically remove something it creates snowball effect issues... Morales are a tricky department and big part of game and always see crazy ideas to nerf this and that and cherry pick without thinking about knock on effect in small and large scale and ultimately realm balance.
if you nerf this and that and want to mirror realms... then bw and wp needs to be seriously nerfed and you will see so much flame and crying on the forums... It would be same thing
Maybe if you use whats already available to you, instead of trying to force unnecessary changes you would have a better time. Or you want your cake, eat it, and the kitchen sink too while your at it?
if you make a legit argument, use the correct context for the love of *** ...
Change morales, you change everything, take away bw DPS makes other order dps viable... problem solved and you have just alienated entire BW playerbase and made more knock on effect problems that are unforseen
Also shaman morale pump is bad compared to AM... i see why you say its fair because AM is far superior because it can be co-ordinated... you can do it and kite... Shaman's need to waste 2 tactics (they already a weak healer) and need to be very engaged and less kiting... I can cherry pick too, but i don't because its idiotic and biased. When i say one side has things the other dont its things like the above... but do i make a big deal out of burning head and AM morale pump no I havent... I accepted it as viable tactic that phalanx use to do and pull off alot... and trust me i use to get sniped alot with it... Its part of the game.
So stop dividing community over toxic bs with serious undertones(which is obvious to see again and again)... you try provoke debate to get classes you do not like nerfed, instead of counter counter them and adapt. Or do you prefer if everything gets nerfed on both sides and everyone dislikes the direction of their classes?
I don't want to be your devil's advocat but don't throw stones in glasshouse.
Dev's get accused of bias by either side... spreading misinformation don't help that.
Why stop at morales, why not remove all skills and we just auto attack one another...
or make everyone a chicken in t4 and we peck each other to death... stop with agenda's unless you are going to include all facts instead of being blatant...
if removed sorc morale 2 then give them infernal wave how it use to be... the list can go on and on... don't make dev's job harder than it already is, their focus should be stable server and fixing cities at the moment and remember balancing is always finely tuned... you see what you want to see.
Its not like order are getting perma stomped... also destro have bigger guilds, that is bigger organised forces... not including pugs because pugs is very RNG and both sides have seriously whack compositions so that data is pretty useless when you have guards not guarding or other side of map and not with their own warband...
If one side was perma stomped and never died then maybe there would be a balance issue? order have defeatist mentality and also opportunist with campaign throwing zones to get easy defense wins by taking full advantage of fort mechanics... but that should have a impact on gameplay? Its swings and roundabouts goes back and forth its rvr its endless...
TL-DR read the part in caps and Nerf that... order do more raw damage and healing... or should if stacked and played right.