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Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:07 pm
by Thaodan
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:00 pm - Big Brawlin’ - Snare potency increased to 30%, Big Swing will now have 20s cd.

So you made a 50ap ability into a 5s aoe snare 30% with 20 CD and requiring a tactic slot GG
For meta play yes. When it comes to abilities which are used in a similar way like chosen/kotb punt it is very similar, the ability is useless (almost) without the tactic equipped.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:11 pm
by skorvag
Culexus wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:05 pm
arturziomas wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:32 pm Why do you keep nerfing black orks?

We've actually had a buff! With aoe snares being reduced to 30%/5sec across the board having access to as many as possible will be important for controlling movement in RvR. With the change to Big Brawlin’ we actually have a use in a warband again beyond just guard bot. The cooldown could maybe be lowered as it requires a tactic slot but it's still a positive change.
For SnB this might be true. But for 2h this is the last nail in the coffin. Increase range from Big Un to 35 feet and i would be happy again.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:12 pm
by Bozzax
Nope, it messes up how you did play the class (mechanic) at the highest level (SnB and 2h). It is a dead horse lets not beat it more. Glck you BO:s

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:15 pm
by Bozzax
Thaodan wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:07 pm
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:00 pm - Big Brawlin’ - Snare potency increased to 30%, Big Swing will now have 20s cd.

So you made a 50ap ability into a 5s aoe snare 30% with 20 CD and requiring a tactic slot GG
For meta play yes. When it comes to abilities which are used in a similar way like chosen/kotb punt it is very similar, the ability is useless (almost) without the tactic equipped.
You miss the point 100% but I'm really happy I stopped playing the class years ago.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:16 pm
by Brizio
Wow, i actualy love this patch...

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:16 pm
by Cyrylius
That might be the first patch that is overall an improvement to the game ive seen. Now, to avoid praising anyone too hard, some changes (especially to morale abilities) are clearly made to remind everyone that there is a fair share of randomness involved in every balance decision that is made.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:30 pm
by Uberlix
Waaaagh getting fixed, as well as Get 'Em and Shut Yer Face Buffs for BO are nice.

Buff to Juggernaut is a welcome change, since playing a tank was pretty much being slowed to a crawl 24/7 in big fights before.

Together with the Aoe Snare nerfs across the board, it might be a bit much though...i could see tanks being rather oppressive.

That being said, the change to Big Brawlin' still has me scratching my head a bit, 20 second cooldown for a 30% aoe snare seems a tad long. But since aoe snares got hit across the board, it is part of the general balancing decision.

We shall see how this all works out.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:31 pm
by Rotgut
Good patch.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:38 pm
by arturziomas
Changes to snares across the board are fair enough but big brawling has a build time debuff that will go from current 100% uptime to max 25%, so it's an additional nerf to this tactic. It's only fair for that effect to be increased then imo.

Re: PTS Patch Notes 09/01/2024

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:47 pm
by ravezaar
Stoutness of Stone is a huge nerf to our best Dawi Tactic, really dont like it but u are doing stuff so we see

I do like the CC reduction, maybe should lookt at Solar Flare aswell and Run Away Tactic then

Good to see changes however and Welcome Back after Holidays