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Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:47 am
by shaggyboomboom
Maybe you’re just trash πŸ€”

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:22 am
by Wiede
Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:22 am Having said that, there are plenty tools to counter them and it doesn't take more than 2 competent players, [...]
When you begin to tell people that it's okay that you need 100% more resources than the enemy (2 players vs. 1 player) to win that encounter you have a serious balance problem... smallscale, largescale, whatever...

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:30 am
by Kellanved
no.. no whatever. If u die in 1v1 vs dps AM its:
A: U beed ganked (deal with it)
B: U lack of skill to kill him (deal with it)
C: U been greedy and lack of common sense (deal with it?)
Healers are ment to survive 1v1 encounters due healing nature. If any dps was been able to kill any healer solo with no problem then playing healer would be dumb and counter efective.

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:15 pm
by Smellybelly
Is this the real life, is this just some fantasy?

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Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:22 pm
by peterthepan3
Wiede wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:22 am
Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:22 am Having said that, there are plenty tools to counter them and it doesn't take more than 2 competent players, [...]
When you begin to tell people that it's okay that you need 100% more resources than the enemy (2 players vs. 1 player) to win that encounter you have a serious balance problem... smallscale, largescale, whatever...
If a single dps could easily dispatch of a single healer archetype, balance would be ****. DPS AM fortunately have pretty bad heals as it is, and certain classes (Mara/BG/WE/Magus/SH) can dispatch of them in 1v1 - not that it amounts to anything meaningful.

It's a group/WB game; how classes fare 1v1 is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:44 pm
by BeautfulToad
Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:08 am
Herthin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:44 am
Osred wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:38 am Good in solo, not great in much else.
What happens if you pile up ppl with classes that perform overly well solo?
Depends on the group synergy of those classes.
Look at sorc, bw, slayer, choppa, all huge damage but can only perform at their limit in a group.
Shammies/AM can do similar damage as a sorc/BW and with significant kiting not available to those damage dealers. BW and Sorcs are essential for warbands for their AoE output.

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:10 pm
by Sulorie
BeautfulToad wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Shammies/AM can do similar damage as a sorc/BW and with significant kiting not available to those damage dealers. BW and Sorcs are essential for warbands for their AoE output.
They can't do similar damage, not even by far. Don't get confused with sc scoreboards.

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:18 pm
by Acidic
Sulorie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:10 pm
BeautfulToad wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Shammies/AM can do similar damage as a sorc/BW and with significant kiting not available to those damage dealers. BW and Sorcs are essential for warbands for their AoE output.
They can't do similar damage, not even by far. Don't get confused with sc scoreboards.
Agree, the comment that dps am/shammy do BW/Soc damage made me laugh :)
Or maybe we entered the Twiligyt Zone

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:38 pm
by roadkillrobin
Sustained singel target damage AM will probobly win against all other casters tbh.

Re: Why archmages are so overpowered?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:45 pm
by anarchypark
stat bolstering + toughness ignore = bolstered DoT nuke in low tiers.
toughness ignore should be limited to life tap skills.