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nope, Fiercness stacked with Vanq & Triumph procc for Slayer since for ever giving em a tons of xtra WS and armor pen and so boosting there dps. That is no longer the case.Mandodlenn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:45 pmWhich change to Fierceness? From 34 to 40, something hidden ?
So it was a bug, not a nerf.ravezaar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:38 amnope, Fiercness stacked with Vanq & Triumph procc for Slayer since for ever giving em a tons of xtra WS and armor pen and so boosting there dps. That is no longer the case.Mandodlenn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:45 pmWhich change to Fierceness? From 34 to 40, something hidden ?
Aethilmar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:59 pm I get the range nerf on Rift/Magnet, but the cast time was too much. It makes it almost impossible to use in an offensive way now so now it is simply a choke-point puller. Boring.
Also, nobody counter-plays Rift/Magnet with interrupts/etc anyway because only time there is "counterplay" is in small groups/SC and people rarely use Rift there there are generally better abilities you could use instead.
Meanwhile, in zerg play (which is where Rift/Magnet gets use), there is too much going on to notice the subtle animations so any interrupt there is on accident from all the AOE flying around.
Maybe use close quaters? If it isnt viable then i agree, shorten casttimeCulexus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:13 pmAethilmar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:59 pm I get the range nerf on Rift/Magnet, but the cast time was too much. It makes it almost impossible to use in an offensive way now so now it is simply a choke-point puller. Boring.
Also, nobody counter-plays Rift/Magnet with interrupts/etc anyway because only time there is "counterplay" is in small groups/SC and people rarely use Rift there there are generally better abilities you could use instead.
Meanwhile, in zerg play (which is where Rift/Magnet gets use), there is too much going on to notice the subtle animations so any interrupt there is on accident from all the AOE flying around.
^ He's right you know
Theoretically btw can use M2 Focused Mind for it, no melee range need in this case.nebelwerfer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:59 pmMaybe use close quaters? If it isnt viable then i agree, shorten casttimeCulexus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:13 pmAethilmar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:59 pm I get the range nerf on Rift/Magnet, but the cast time was too much. It makes it almost impossible to use in an offensive way now so now it is simply a choke-point puller. Boring.
Also, nobody counter-plays Rift/Magnet with interrupts/etc anyway because only time there is "counterplay" is in small groups/SC and people rarely use Rift there there are generally better abilities you could use instead.
Meanwhile, in zerg play (which is where Rift/Magnet gets use), there is too much going on to notice the subtle animations so any interrupt there is on accident from all the AOE flying around.
^ He's right you know
Or just revert it back to 1s. Why double nerf it? The range has been reduced and it is not instant. Why the 2s cast? It's deep in the utility tree and you have to give something up to get it. It doesn't do damage either.
If players can't talk about patchnotes in Changelogs threads, you should simply lock the posts to prevent any answer from startsioding wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:28 amCreate a "Feedback: Patch Notes 22/12/2023" under General - bring up some good proposals under Balance Proposal. I don't say your discussion isn't important but its hard to react on other patch problems when the thread is filled with theory crafting and explanations why whatever is not really comparable to this or that - topped off by personal animosities.lumpi33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:12 am You nerfed some classes pretty hard with the ability overhaul and this patch contains balance changes as well. Were else should we give feedback then in response to your balance changes? That people are picking up points and start to discuss it is only natural.
