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Re: Destro
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:52 pm
by Bozzax
True, it is the best dps on des but that is not the point.
Re: Destro
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:29 am
by nat3s
Yes agreed, best destro melee, no question, melee DoK is pretty strong right now too, but for different reasons.
Mara +1 is still inferior to WL+MSW. Peter with your 6v6 experience you must have felt the power of WL+MSW, so much engage and disengage and crazy burst. It needs a nerf.
Re: Destro
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:46 am
by DanielWinner
nat3s wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:29 am
Yes agreed, best destro melee, no question, melee DoK is pretty strong right now too, but for different reasons.
Mara +1 is still inferior to WL+MSW. Peter with your 6v6 experience you must have felt the power of WL+MSW, so much engage and disengage and crazy burst. It needs a nerf.
But he also has beaten it several times.
That comp was not that strong if WL couldn’t pounce non-stop because it makes it hard to control, debuff. But when you CC it and keep snared, it’s possible to kill it. That has been proven. If only BOs aoe snare was there, it would be much easier.
Re: Destro
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:00 am
by Bozzax
Sure but what you talk about is 6v6 with purposly built setup to get enough snares.
Likely somthing like a whopping 0,001% of gameplay. Most other times WL/ASW destroy pugs or less perfect setups way to easy.
Secondly if the best group used it like LOB/Enigma etc.
Would anyone be able to beat it?
Re: Destro
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:44 pm
by shaggyboomboom
Bozzax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:00 am
Sure but what you talk about is 6v6 with purposly built setup to get enough snares.
Likely somthing like a whopping 0,001% of gameplay. Most other times WL/ASW destroy pugs or less perfect setups way to easy.
Secondly if the best group used it like LOB/Enigma etc.
Would anyone be able to beat it?
maybe, who knows?
and don't forget the 180 ini debuff that mSW had on release, it was even stronger than the gWL+mSW right now. and hey, guess what? there were hard counters to that.
Re: Destro
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:05 pm
by peterthepan3
Bozzax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:00 am
Likely somthing like a whopping 0,001% of gameplay. Most other times WL/ASW destroy pugs or less perfect setups way to easy.
This is an incredibly piss-poor argument: just because 0.001% of people actually practice and use counters to these things doesn't negate from said counters existing in the first place and being open to you - should you be so inclined to use them - instead of whining like a child.
Re: Destro
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:22 pm
by Bozzax
P3.. WL atm is broken outside of 6v6. Possibly even harmfull for the 6v6 community? No need to get all worked up about wording.
Time for foooty
Re: Destro
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:09 am
by nat3s
peterthepan3 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:05 pm
Bozzax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:00 am
Likely somthing like a whopping 0,001% of gameplay. Most other times WL/ASW destroy pugs or less perfect setups way to easy.
This is an incredibly piss-poor argument: just because 0.001% of people actually practice and use counters to these things doesn't negate from said counters existing in the first place and being open to you - should you be so inclined to use them - instead of whining like a child.
The ease with which a comp can be countered is incredibly important, that's essentially balance. If WL+MSW requires a very specific setup to counter where Mara + 1 is more easily dealt with, then you have an imbalance.