Return of Reckoning

Warfare80 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:39 pm So people still cry about Solar Flare, but not even whispering about mara moraledrain?
Sure give chosen the Solar Flare AND then give order the moraledrain. They you will find out something funny, you NEVER gonna hit morale 4 against organized WBs. You are lucky if you can reach m2 a few times / night.

You have obviously never played a fort against a competent Order team running Solar Flare. Sola flare is not only stronger than the mara moral drain but having a moral drain on a tank is infinitely more powerful. I understand that you are trying to help but posts like this one will not help us get the plethora of Chosen issues fixed!

herooftime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:13 pm

Warfare80 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:39 pm So people still cry about Solar Flare, but not even whispering about mara moraledrain?
Sure give chosen the Solar Flare AND then give order the moraledrain. They you will find out something funny, you NEVER gonna hit morale 4 against organized WBs. You are lucky if you can reach m2 a few times / night.

You have obviously never played a fort against a competent Order team running Solar Flare. Sola flare is not only stronger than the mara moral drain but having a moral drain on a tank is infinitely more powerful. I understand that you are trying to help but posts like this one will not help us get the plethora of Chosen issues fixed!

You are both right. It's only useful in Forts, and you pretty much respec after and b4 for it. You barely ever use m4 outside of it, and is more useful a m2 perfect block in nearly every other situation. And Mara plethora of skills are only more annoying with the fact that you can't counter with a morale. Still, this thread is about chosen, so none of this really matters, and will matter even less when the Morales are reworked.

Kobs work better in sieges sich while mara work better in open field...guess what you need to progress in this rvr? Sieges....guess what you cant do to progress ?? Open combat.....

Guess whi at the end of the day will profit more from his moral even if on paper other one is plain better?

KOBS!!

Now joke aside that was very true aswell regarding ch/bo moral tactic..Thats way even post nerf we did not really suffered from it, at teast now we gained 1 tactic slot...tough no stuff to pour into it.

Anyway instead mirror stuff for chosen meh...i dont want it...maybe fix alredy present underperforming stuff???

Too maybe people are focusing on the fact that Knight and Chosen aren’t mirror classes. Hmmm I’m think that it would be more beneficial to create a separate forum post highlighting Chosen weaknesses rather than showing how low the classes utility and abilities stack up next to the Knight’s.

Tesq wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:07 am Kobs work better in sieges sich while mara work better in open field...guess what you need to progress in this rvr? Sieges....guess what you cant do to progress ?? Open combat.....

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Now that you bring the theme, let's talk about Choppa pulls and how they perform in sieges, Forts, and keeps......

And again you are comparing a skill that we have been assured to be nerfed. No point to hit a dead horse.

Ototo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:55 pm

Tesq wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:07 am Kobs work better in sieges sich while mara work better in open field...guess what you need to progress in this rvr? Sieges....guess what you cant do to progress ?? Open combat.....

(...)

Now that you bring the theme, let's talk about Choppa pulls and how they perform in sieges, Forts, and keeps......

And again you are comparing a skill that we have been assured to be nerfed. No point to hit a dead horse.

you omit the part where i say lets put aside the kobs stuff and thinkg about fix ch stuff , anyway in siege engi/magus pull is better as peel ppl 1 by 1 dont serve any purpose if not renown grind. You just hate more choppa because there are few rift magus around due rift engi being more durable and so easy/enjoyable to play.

seven pages.. impressive. this motivation and energy would be useful in a good proposal thread - but of course this here is also a "solution".

sioding wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:01 pm seven pages.. impressive. this motivation and energy would be useful in a good proposal thread - but of course this here is also a "solution".

like.... these....

viewtopic.php?f=100&t=24224
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=27282
viewtopic.php?f=95&t=28699
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=30644
viewtopic.php?f=95&t=31153
viewtopic.php?f=95&t=31154
viewtopic.php?f=95&t=31327

sioding wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:01 pm seven pages.. impressive. this motivation and energy would be useful in a good proposal thread - but of course this here is also a "solution".

No disrespect but there are tons of proposals already on the balance forums, quite a few from tesq alone about chosen

None of them have been discussed or moved forward in anyway, combine that with the fact that that there are no balance forum mod(?) and it kinda kills the desire to make proposals

On top of that it seems the devs want to make the proposals that the community comments on like the tank moral changes that went no where