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good class "against" Healers

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:27 am
by Fischkardinal
hey im looking fore suggestions what Class Destro/Order u whould say is a good "Anti Healer" ?
like debuff,interrupt and make him weak so my Team can kill him/his Team in Scs.

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:04 am
by Frankie
Black Guard for instance has a path dedicated to just that, but that seems mostly viable in small scale rvr and scs. I use one just for that and as tanks go below 40, it's pretty enjoyable.

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:38 am
by Zxul
There are WE/WH, which have both incoming and outgoing heal debuff.

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:04 pm
by tazdingo
ranged SH

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:29 pm
by HammerGuy
BG has the Soul Killer tactic. It makes Mind Killer, an ability with no cooldown that can stack its debuff up to 3 times for 20s, a 50% heal reduction. It also has Agonizing Wound, which increases ability AP cost by up to 20 for 10s. And on top of that there is the Unstoppable Fury tactic which removes detaunts from the BG. This means the BG can really pressure a single healer, and provide annoyance to multiple healers. It's most effective in a small engagement or scenario.

Choppa has Can't Stop Da Chopa, reducing incoming heals to 50%. It has No More Helpin' which reduces heals by 50%. And finally it has Tired Already? which makes ability cooldowns last 5 seconds longer.

A Choppa and a BG paired in a scenario could really wreck heals. It requires the Choppa to be specced for 2h and the BG to be specced for anti-healer, both of which rarely happen.

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:15 am
by Ysaran
HammerGuy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:29 pm BG has the Soul Killer tactic. It makes Mind Killer, an ability with no cooldown that can stack its debuff up to 3 times for 20s, a 50% heal reduction. It also has Agonizing Wound, which increases ability AP cost by up to 20 for 10s. And on top of that there is the Unstoppable Fury tactic which removes detaunts from the BG. This means the BG can really pressure a single healer, and provide annoyance to multiple healers. It's most effective in a small engagement or scenario.

Choppa has Can't Stop Da Chopa, reducing incoming heals to 50%. It has No More Helpin' which reduces heals by 50%. And finally it has Tired Already? which makes ability cooldowns last 5 seconds longer.

A Choppa and a BG paired in a scenario could really wreck heals. It requires the Choppa to be specced for 2h and the BG to be specced for anti-healer, both of which rarely happen.
2H choppa is a dead build. No Pent Up Rage and no rage discharge with Wot Rules makes the spec too squishy. You would also need BiS gear to be effective with 2h

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:13 am
by p00ky
Chuck Norris

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:56 am
by Scottx125
Trick to killing a healer is to interrupt/disable their healing, that's KD's, Silences, build time increases or stripping of blessings etc.

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:35 am
by Lion1986
A healer that knows how to play, is nigh unkillable in 1v1.
That said, i believe black guard is destro top most healer killer for such faction (you aut remove detaunts , 50%less healing output, some self healing capabilities and nice controls)

Order?.... well... witch hunter I would say.

Re: good class "against" Healers

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:08 am
by Farrul
Fischkardinal wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:27 am hey im looking fore suggestions what Class Destro/Order u whould say is a good "Anti Healer" ?
like debuff,interrupt and make him weak so my Team can kill him/his Team in Scs.
On order if you want to support your team to score kills on geared healers is an Ironbreaker/Kotbs 2H and double heal debuff WH.

The single most important skill vs healers generally is a punt, indirectly to remove the guard either by punting the tank away or punting the healer into a vulnerable spot.

Ironbreakers once geared up do high dps for a tank and will put pressure on healers , may opt for heal debuff and the punt has a good range to it.

Kotbs 2H is the single most powerful debuff class Order has and will make healers crit vulnerable to dps classes and cut into their wounds , also has a decent punt with tactic and may opt for anti detaunt tactic to put up some dps pressure to help dps score the kill.

If they ever fix WL bugged pet it may be used to pull the healer away from guard/into vulnerable position for an easy kill.

On Destro, BG is obvious, mara pull ( lame) etc.