[Swordmaster] 3x Tactics that are too similar

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Re: [Swordmaster] 3x Tactics that are too similar [Close Date May 1]

Post#11 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:09 am

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Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:26 am
Could anyone elaborate on how Dragon Talon interacts with guard, aoe taunt and other damage decreasing abilities? I think that would be important to know in regards to solution 1.
It places a debuff on the enemy that makes them do 80% of normal damage. Kind of like the old siege weapon buff/debuffs. As far as I am aware, it stacks with taunt, challenge & guard. Could be wrong though.

Guard + Taunt + Dragon's Talon + Intimidating Blow = Neutered Enemy DPS Player

It's worth keeping in mind that DT and IB have very short durations. The SM has to be on the enemy constantly to keep it up, and it prohibits the SM from doing anything other than Ensorcelled Blow (or Protection of Hoeth) > Intimidating Blow > Dragon's Talon, which shuts down the SMs biggest mitigation ability, Eagles Flight, which is 25% parry. You can get away with using Sudden Shift to skip a normal balance GCD every few seconds, though.

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Re: [Swordmaster] 3x Tactics that are too similar [Close Date May 1]

Post#12 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:21 am

Edit: Nvm, read previous post wrong.

Edit2: Does it really stack with Challenge? Both are abilities that reduces outgoing damage and, as such, I would think they do not stack.
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Re: [Swordmaster] 3x Tactics that are too similar [Close Date May 1]

Post#13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:30 am

They stack.

There is a lot of abilities that tanks have that stack with challenge. Those abilities are just not favored by the community usually since everyone is so damage focused.

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Re: [Swordmaster] 3x Tactics that are too similar [Close Date May 1]

Post#14 » Thu May 03, 2018 8:45 pm


Thanks for your discussions.
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Re: [Swordmaster] 3x Tactics that are too similar

Post#15 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:39 pm

We've had some changes take place after this proposal was opened. No need to update these now imo since you can use both Poised and DO. Rejecting.
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