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[Pending Final Review] Crow Controll effects nerf

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Tesq
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Re: Crow Controll effects nerf

Post#21 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:50 pm

Maybe i was not clear in regard ib, if the 1 4.7 changed that value it should be brought back to 4 sec imo.
Both realm should benefith from one 4+ kd provide it have some sort of condition as to incentive ib/bg.
Since the aim is also make ib/bg kd more relevant
Of course i expect it with some min conditionto justify go from 3 to 4 as for the 5 sec bg KD require block.
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Penril
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Re: Crow Controll effects nerf

Post#22 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:54 pm

IB SnB KD is 3 secs. Their 2H KD (Cave-in) used to be 4s a long time ago, but it got nerfed to 3.

So the 4s KD did have a requirement (2H). Furthermore, BGs were given a 2H KD in RoR, so maybe you should take that into consideration.

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Re: Crow Controll effects nerf

Post#23 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:06 pm

Tough yes they both have 2h kd they have core s+b kd so the situation didnd't changed a s+b build would had been able to bring a kd anyway,
The point is choices, possibly go 2h or s+b mean more for ib/bg than do it for chosen/etc as it limit other skill but not KD acces, while for chosen/bo / sm/ kobs mean more not get kd than go 2h or s+b as those mastery can both played mostly 1h or 2h as their kd can be used in both way but each mastery buff different things and have the kd on only one of those mean more builds limits for tanks which for tehir buff are mastery dependand ( as in fact they are more wide buff/debuff tanks than active as ib/bg. bo/sm kinda middle ground)

Ch/kobs/etc may be discriminate more on have or not kd (and trade 1 mastery for have it) while ib/bg are tank which are supposed to have them as core feature ( active tanks).
So this mean that each tank will be discriminate regard different things and this is fine until some tanks loose the problem because melee can get 1 critical skill in their place thus free tanks of the problems ( Doing something they shouldn't that well). And here is the melee train problem which win vs a rdps premade due too many tools on melee, some of which should stay more on tanks.
Im sure that considering how much ib/bg are mastery spec dependant the choice matter is secured there especially bg.
On the other side ch/bo/sm/kobs dont have this limitation when the best type cc in game is avaible to mdps and rdps alike with the same duration.
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Re: Crow Controll effects nerf

Post#24 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:06 pm

Time to lock.

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