So basically any ability that is unique and strong should be removed?Dabbart wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:29 pmFor the record, the only people discussing 1v1 are those trying to say how much we shouldn’t.... Anarchy, I gave plenty of examples of ways and reasons to use this M1, not just WE. Go read my first post on page 5.
Other people, I don’t care if your premade WB or 6v6 team thinks it is the best choice. I for instance, don’t think Morale Pump on AM is ever a good choice. Different game theories aren't proof of anything. I have also stated that I don't believe this M1 will ever be used heavily(in cycle form) in 6v6's or premade WBs. Cause every class is supposed to be built a particular way in those settings. Ofc, 95% of gameplay doesn't take part in 6v6 events or premade WBs... Ofc, changing the M1 to 20s wont have any impact on any "intelligent" usage of this M1, in ANY setting.
Seriously, how much stuff "works" in 6man, gank squads, SCs, or NA timezone ORvR, that just flat out wont in EU ORvR simply due to amount of WBs? Don't use your timezone's ORvR zerg or not as proof of anything please. There are more ways to play competently outside of a TUP/Phalanx/Zerg premade WB... And remember, that is what Balance Forums are seen from, 6man+ and played competently. Not the best of the best 6v6 or 24v24 setting. You not using it, isn't proof of a damned thing.
This is the same(ish) as how Shaman proc needed to be changed cause it could be OP, just because something isn’t broken to the point everyone and their mother insists on using it, doesn’t mean it isn’t Op. and just cause you don’t use it, really doesn’t mean much...
And for the love of god... can we stop comparing Tactics to Morales? Survival tactics on Sham are “countered” by AM AP tactics. Shams “counter” to ishas ward is Mork Sayz Stop. You compare M1s to other M1s.
As for Tesq saying AMs have no Perma detaunt, escape/survival tools, or damage reduction.... go slap yourself in the face. AMs have 2 detaunts. 1 is a 100% up time ST.
Sham is the only healer that has a Kite tactic. So what? AM is the only one that gets 50% AP cost. AMs also have puddle.
Damage reduction is in the x2 detaunts, SOS, and other heal abilities. What damage reduction does any non-Z/RP have besides detaunts?
Tesq, dude, please. Reread your posts, plz try to make them legible. It’s possible I’m arguing that wrong side against you. Cause your **** hard to understand.
Other than that... I believe every question has been answered, or at least attempted to be, previously in this thread.