3rd defense strategy

[TreefAM]

It can work but you need to have something organized both holding up and pushing down.
Last time I was part of a successful 3rd defense (2 in the same night actually) was about a year and a half ago.
The first fight was Praag southern keep, order was zerging, Gitbane was holding 3rd floor and I came with my wb and as I pushed in the defenseless bottom he jumped them from the top and we wiped them.
The second fight was also Praag southern keep a couple of hours later where I was holding 3rd with another 12man and Gitbane pushed bottom to pretty much the same result.
You can hold them, but you really need to have someone to coordinate with, otherwise 3rd floor defenses are just a way to farm up some renown before getting wiped.

[emiliorv]

The real question is....why (TF) you want to (sucesful) defend a fort?

Because it's your fort to defend, obviously.

To treat it otherwise begets a question: why fight at all?

The system punish players for a sucesfull fort defense, blocking the access to endgame content...

[anarchypark]

listen : it's not for successful defense.
It's how to accept your death gloriously, with weapons on your hand, fighting. dragging 1 more enemy with you to hell. and maximize that chance in supportless battle.

it's not for ' win = success, death = fail ' players.
for 10+ years how many fails were there if you maintained that concept.
need to get away from win/lose idea.
as long as you have spirit to fight, that's not lose.

[NSKaneda]

The real question is....why (TF) you want to (sucesful) defend a fort?

Because it's your fort to defend, obviously.

To treat it otherwise begets a question: why fight at all?

The system punish players for a sucesfull fort defense, blocking the access to endgame content...

I see. So throwing zones and forts is just a way of getting end game content. Avoiding fights in the lakes is just a way of accessing end game content. Better to sit in the capitol and wait for next city to pop.

Despicable.

[emiliorv]

Because it's your fort to defend, obviously.

To treat it otherwise begets a question: why fight at all?

The system punish players for a sucesfull fort defense, blocking the access to endgame content...

I see. So throwing zones and forts is just a way of getting end game content. Avoiding fights in the lakes is just a way of accessing end game content. Better to sit in the capitol and wait for next city to pop.

Sadly, this is the best way to access to end game gear....the reward system we have right now dont encourage fighting. Also dont encourage to defend the realm when you are outnumbered...

Maybe if end game gear wasnt locked behind city...or maybe if the game rewarded the real fights instead the PV-Door....The way its designed right now encourage PV-Door and reach city asap.