bloodlord set DOK

[Unstoppable1776]

The bloodlord set is not good for Dok. please give the WE 4 piece onslaught bonus to Dok 4 piece bloodlord bonus. Bloodlord is more of a final set so it should be better or at least equal to an onslaught set.

[Ormix]

WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.

[Hargrim]

If you want Onslaught run Chapter 22 and wear Onslaught. As easy as that.

[Unstoppable1776]

WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.

Majority of this game is a team game
BG, BO have armor debuffs..doks proc wont stack
Toughness debuff wont stack with dok ability
and why run a 5% chance to increase crit by 6% when i can run a constant 5%?

the onslaught from a WE set, actually is a good proc. 10% chance to increase crit by 9 percent and crit dmg by 12. To me that is an end game set.

I cannot get this bonus since dok onslaught is a heal set. Doks only get dps sets every third time. Since there has to be a heal set, a shield spec, and then a dps spec. So i'm a bit disappointed with the blood set. I honestly can't justify running any blood piece.

Are the weapons any good?

[peterthepan3]

The weapons give you +5% damage bonus, so they're BiS for DPS DoK (I would pick this MH, and a proc weapon for OH).

[dalen]

WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.

Basically, 5pc Oppressor + 2pc Sentinel (with sentinel ring) +3pc Beastlord + 2pc Genesis will give you better stats than 7pc Bloodlord + 4pc Genesis. 7pc Bloodlord can't really be combined with any Sentinel or Beastlord. See the full comparison here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

The same armor debuff is also available on some sentinel weapons.

But a simpler fix would be to swap 4pc & 5pc bonuses and make it into flat +5% crit. So you would get:
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces +87 Strength
5 pieces +5% Melee Crit

Instead of
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces Boost II – On Hit: 5% chance to increase critical hit rate by 6% for 9 seconds.
5 pieces +87 Strength

This would make it have the same amount of base melee crit chance as the Oppressor set, but with slightly higher stats otherwise.

Adding a (regular) talisman slot to the Bloodlord Cloak would also help make the set more competitive vs Oppressor+Beastlord+Sentinel combos.

Anyway, that's my 2c on it.

[Unstoppable1776]

Server just crashed, is it safe to assume its to update the dok bloodlord set?

[Unstoppable1776]

WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.

Basically, 5pc Oppressor + 2pc Sentinel (with sentinel ring) +3pc Beastlord + 2pc Genesis will give you better stats than 7pc Bloodlord + 4pc Genesis. 7pc Bloodlord can't really be combined with any Sentinel or Beastlord. See the full comparison here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

The same armor debuff is also available on some sentinel weapons.

But a simpler fix would be to swap 4pc & 5pc bonuses and make it into flat +5% crit. So you would get:
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces +87 Strength
5 pieces +5% Melee Crit

Instead of
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces Boost II – On Hit: 5% chance to increase critical hit rate by 6% for 9 seconds.
5 pieces +87 Strength

This would make it have the same amount of base melee crit chance as the Oppressor set, but with slightly higher stats otherwise.

Adding a (regular) talisman slot to the Bloodlord Cloak would also help make the set more competitive vs Oppressor+Beastlord+Sentinel combos.

Anyway, that's my 2c on it.

BORING! there are some good set bonuses out there from other dps classes. WAsn't the point of the dok/WP changes to make them more like dps classes? My heals got cut ten fold as DW, sooo...mmm

[dalen]

WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.

Basically, 5pc Oppressor + 2pc Sentinel (with sentinel ring) +3pc Beastlord + 2pc Genesis will give you better stats than 7pc Bloodlord + 4pc Genesis. 7pc Bloodlord can't really be combined with any Sentinel or Beastlord. See the full comparison here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

The same armor debuff is also available on some sentinel weapons.

But a simpler fix would be to swap 4pc & 5pc bonuses and make it into flat +5% crit. So you would get:
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces +87 Strength
5 pieces +5% Melee Crit

Instead of
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces Boost II – On Hit: 5% chance to increase critical hit rate by 6% for 9 seconds.
5 pieces +87 Strength

This would make it have the same amount of base melee crit chance as the Oppressor set, but with slightly higher stats otherwise.

Adding a (regular) talisman slot to the Bloodlord Cloak would also help make the set more competitive vs Oppressor+Beastlord+Sentinel combos.

Anyway, that's my 2c on it.

BORING! there are some good set bonuses out there from other dps classes. WAsn't the point of the dok/WP changes to make them more like dps classes? My heals got cut ten fold as DW, sooo...mmm

Yeah, might be boring, but IMHO having 2 procs is enough for one set, I like having some stats I can rely on being there 100% of the time

If you want Onslaught run Chapter 22 and wear Onslaught. As easy as that.

As you know, that is a Salv/Dark Rites set for WP/DoK. Would it be possible to make it available in two variants, main spec & off spec, like what is planned for Sovereign? Could be through a trader where you can swap an onslaught piece for the equivalent off spec onslaught piece.

[Hargrim]

As you know, that is a Salv/Dark Rites set for WP/DoK. Would it be possible to make it available in two variants, main spec & off spec, like what is planned for Sovereign? Could be through a trader where you can swap an onslaught piece for the equivalent off spec onslaught piece.

As far as I know only Tyrant have a possibility of main spec and off spec from PvE gear.