[Suggestion] Scenario event

[Dresden]

This is not a request/demand or a complaint, please feel free to slap this idea down immediately, i'm not precious about it.


What about an event of a few days of mass play in one of the bigger scenario maps? Battle for Praag?

Maybe it could involve a simple kill quest (demanding a HIGH number of kills) to get a trophy or a potion or something.

Maybe a Khorne theme? let a few Khornate mob types (and their order equivalents) run about a bit in the scenario's,
you could make them part of any quest requirements.

[HissiCNesS]

Sounds like fun! And the Blood God always demands his skulls... And blood... A LOT!!

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULLTHRONE

[Darosh]

If the community-related outcome of that event wouldn't be so predictable and dire... Sure, it'd be great fun.
As is you'd just enable enhanced pugfarm, littered chats and forum wars ~ some things never change.

I am all for events as they tend to bring people together, but centering events around formats that are prone to the pug-vs-premade debate is imho not a good idea.
In ORvR you can atleast cover up the fact that people dare to run in organised groups and such by virtue of map dimension and the numbers in play, scenarios are too tiny of a frame to avoid all hell from breaking loose.

Even if the event would come with a group requirement to prevent some of the old drill by defusing some of the undying arguments (e.g.: matchmaking, [...], yada yada yada) from the get go, it'd just lure others out of their holes to comment on bias, intention and how unfair they are being treated all together.

[peterthepan3]

Uck...battle for praag. It's basically rvr-in-a-can, that map!

Cool suggestions, and similarly it would be nice to see some incentives/event for premadevspremade scs too.

[Darosh]

Uck...battle for praag. It's basically rvr-in-a-can, that map!

Cool suggestions, and similarly it would be nice to see some incentives/event for premadevspremade scs too.

One would have to think about enabling two versions of the event-related scenarios, pug only and premade only ~ dunno whether thats feasible to begin with, given the population in the respective timeslots and all that.
Otherwise you'd have premade sync queeing in the end... I think there is nothing more painful for pugs than BoP/GC with two premades on one side and none on the other.

Premade vs premade events would be alot of fun, but that would bring us back to what I alluded above about people and holes.

[Dresden]

Darosh - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20758&start=20#p240816

peterthepan3 - Oh no! you have uncovered my secret plan!

[Bastion]

I thought in something similar. Pairing scs like:

- Gates of ekrund 12v12 dwarfs vs greenskins
- nordenwatch 12v12 empire vs chaos
Etc...

[Darosh]

Darosh - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20758&start=20#p240816

Cheeky, considering the sentence you start up your suggestions with - especially in this case; considering how generic of a suggestion this is and that it accounts for roughly 5% (if even) of the server's population.
Might aswell describe the sky as red and count flying pigs while we are at it, if we brush of its implications and the environment it is meant to be run in.

Abbd.:

1. time limit and shiny (cosmetic) rewards
2. playerbase that is unwilling to group up and loathes competitive play(ers)
3. server population split by timeslots (= the splitting of event related scenarios into pug and premade only not being an option; queue times)
4. the funneling of said playerbase into a format that is entirely dominated by the few premades left and that does not offer leeway (map dimension/objectives/matchmaking) whatsoever
5. premade population predominantly playing on order, leaving destro all to much vulnerable to enhanced pugfarm
6. occasional premade vs premade that'll invetiably end in cannons vs premade; epeen vs epeen or epeen vs (own) pugs in the chats
7. horrific relationships between the subsets of the community to begin with

Combine the above and you'll effectively emulate the ORvR lootroll-experience; you'll harm the community (as you give the majority of players a reason and an opportunity to complain about the event - by extension the status quo). The "But you don't need/aren't forced to play the event! Bleh, bla."-drill might be supported by common sense, but common sense as such is not a thing that people care about these days.

I am a pugherder at heart myself, however I don't see a point in denying reality or forcing the issue.

Again, I suggest you distance yourself from (only-)scenarios related events for as long your other attempts (6v6 events and alike) of crafting a competitive community don't yield convincing results - as is you'll just scare people off; hurt their 'feels' by killing them in a video game, or anger them; waste the time they pour into the game to get the event items, making it ever less likely for yourself to convince them to join you and participate in competitive play.

TLDR: Don't force the issue by pushing people's faces into areas of the game that they'll ~ given the set of circumstances you'll create - invetiably consider to be flawed beyond belief.

[Dresden]

Spoiler:

Darosh - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20758&start=20#p240816

Cheeky, considering the sentence you start up your suggestions with - especially in this case; considering how generic of a suggestion this is and that it accounts for roughly 5% (if even) of the server's population.
Might aswell describe the sky as red and count flying pigs while we are at it, if we brush of its implications and the environment it is meant to be run in.

Abbd.:

1. time limit and shiny (cosmetic) rewards
2. playerbase that is unwilling to group up and loathes competitive play(ers)
3. server population split by timeslots (= the splitting of event related scenarios into pug and premade only not being an option; queue times)
4. the funneling of said playerbase into a format that is entirely dominated by the few premades left and that does not offer leeway (map dimension/objectives/matchmaking) whatsoever
5. premade population predominantly playing on order, leaving destro all to much vulnerable to enhanced pugfarm
6. occasional premade vs premade that'll invetiably end in cannons vs premade; epeen vs epeen or epeen vs (own) pugs in the chats
7. horrific relationships between the subsets of the community to begin with

Combine the above and you'll effectively emulate the ORvR lootroll-experience; you'll harm the community (as you give the majority of players a reason and an opportunity to complain about the event - by extension the status quo). The "But you don't need/aren't forced to play the event! Bleh, bla."-drill might be supported by common sense, but common sense as such is not a thing that people care about these days.

I am a pugherder at heart myself, however I don't see a point in denying reality or forcing the issue.

Again, I suggest you distance yourself from (only-)scenarios related events for as long your other attempts (6v6 events and alike) of crafting a competitive community don't yield convincing results - as is you'll just scare people off; hurt their 'feels' by killing them in a video game, or anger them; waste the time they pour into the game to get the event items, making it ever less likely for yourself to convince them to join you and participate in competitive play.

TLDR: Don't force the issue by pushing people's faces into areas of the game that they'll ~ given the set of circumstances you'll create - invetiably consider to be flawed beyond belief.

Okay.

I am now ignoring you.

[Dresden]

How about mass fights in that three-storey twisty tower scenario?

I remember big fights in there on live, truely insane.