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Unstoppable1776
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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#11 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:41 pm

By plenty you mean 2 lol heal- go conq, dps go dom

Yep plenty of options lol
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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#12 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:56 pm

I know conq is for pure healer and domi for dps, but others "mixed" sets are close to be useless, even beastlord is not really worth to use it !

For example runie beastlord is really cool with full set, even the AM, why the WP is not cool aswell? :mrgreen: :twisted:

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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#13 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:50 pm

Really? My AM is going for 4p conq 2p Fortune 3p genesis, 2p winds impervious. There are plenty of sets to choose from. Some people still like ruin just for the armor and defenses. Different gear for different styles.

If you feel a cookie cutter is the only acceptable build then good for you. But there are players that like a hybrid system, and, my main point, that in the future maybe those hybrid sets will have a real use.
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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#14 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:59 pm

Dabbart wrote:Really? My AM is going for 4p conq 2p Fortune 3p genesis, 2p winds impervious. There are plenty of sets to choose from. Some people still like ruin just for the armor and defenses. Different gear for different styles.

If you feel a cookie cutter is the only acceptable build then good for you. But there are players that like a hybrid system, and, my main point, that in the future maybe those hybrid sets will have a real use.
It is easy to combine when you have everything but this guy just wanted help new ppls in game.

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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#15 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:17 pm

That is not at all how I read the OP... The OP states that every DoK set should be either DPS or Heal. That’s it.
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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#16 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:31 pm

there are some bonus which are good either way, as said, 3pt am/sh with armor bonus and a free tali slot basically is 450 armor bonus.

This is free buff for dok/wp.......i get why they didnt get the same tratement, tough genesis for tank/healer depending on build get pretty useless. DPS have an easy life, crit + primary stat =win

Not everything is easy to balance especially in gear itiemization when you have to mix stuff......full mono set or full single piece of gear are easier to balance. Full 1 + 2 mix of sets etc, aren't
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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#17 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:32 pm

It's not about dps or heal, it's about melee or caster - str or wp. There is zero need for pieces to have both str and wp on them (not talking about the set bonuses but the armour piece stats).

If you want to play hybrid caster/melee builds, combining str and wp then as you said, you can mix and match 2 or 3 pieces for the different set bonuses, but the vast majority will never stack str and wp in the same build for very good reasons - you end up with a char that's less than half as effective as a caster healer and less than half as effective as a melee healer. Putting both str and wp on the same armour piece just hurts the vast, vast majority of WP/DoKs and reduces the number of viable armour sets.

Implying that every build that focuses on either str or wp is a 'cookie cutter' build is ridiculous though - there are many varied ways to build a WP/DoK. Every good way needs str OR wp.

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Re: Update stats on dok gear.

Post#18 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:03 pm

Torquemadra wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:38 pm
Unstoppable1776 wrote:I have no problem. Means I don’t do any pve. Just trying to give more people a reason to do the pve.
It will be expanded on, multiple attribute dependency was a failing from mythic which we have inherited.
I must have missed your post. Thank you and great work
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