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Killiansat
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#31 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:29 pm

online casinos, so as some ppl here, say that there is a chance. this phrase is often addressed to those , who has 0 understanding of maths. if big numbers dont follow statistics - u r fooled.
where is the border between statistics and chance? its much more simple to get than it seems. in finance market scripts statistics begins from 3 full cycles. when i get 20+ full cycles this shows that in reality random doesnt work as it was declared. i can guess that it uses some kind of sector in the field of chances (that has for example 2 from 5 pieces) and randomly chooses the value from this certain sector.. the sector has a very low chance to be changed (like 5%) but this kind of mechanism isnt random at all.
open up the mechanics for ppl! post the piece of script u use for "random".
if u want to keep ppl playing this "chance" is not a good way. it only makes ppl feel rage. sentinel farming is hard, but its ok. gunbard farming is ok. vanq farming is ok(coz if i dont get a needed piece i can buy it). a person understands that he shd do the limited size of activity in worst situation. but genesis!!! ####!!! in this state it is endless source of rage , hatered and broken furniture.
if u want ppl play just give them micro things to up their characters based on grind+chance, not just chance
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#32 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:56 pm

Got my first full genesis set within 12 blue bags at RR61 and due to the fact that tanks have three different set, no duplication so far. ^^

Guess it's bad rng *shrug*
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#33 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:08 pm

Got multiple sets on multiple chars, however I agree, runnimg after rng with 0 alternative isn't fun at all.
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#34 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:33 am

At some point there needs to be a hard cap on RNG, say collect 100 genesis tokens = 1 piece of genesis you need
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#35 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:32 am

One of my chars is now rr 68, full Vanq and still 4/5 Genesis. Please introduce some form of swap system - hell, make it one of each of the other 4 Genesis tokens, or a subjugator piece, or even a Vanq piece.

Better still, how about adding them to the old Overlord/Imperator vendor for a reasonably large number of seals, that way you're still gating the acquisition behind a decent amount of PvP.

I really don't get the justification for adding a Subj trade system but refusing to add a trade system for the 'lesser' in terms of gear quality/bag exclusivity Genesis set, which has more parts for the rng to pick from.

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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#36 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:56 am

Even with a 20% success rate for the piece you're looking for, that's still a lot of RNG involved. You have to win an appropriate bag first (that's a rarity), then you have a 1/5 chance of it being what you need.

A good solution to this would be making each appropriate-level bag drop a token that you can combine <x> number of, then trade that into the merchant for the piece you're needing. That way, even if you didn't win the piece you needed, you at least get to make some progress towards the next piece. Kind of how it works for other pieces of gear. If you get a duplicate piece of vanquisher, you can select the tokens instead of the gear in order to save for the next piece.
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Urdeg
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#37 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:30 am

I didn't find genesis pieces to take that long, it helps to dedicate a day off to flipping zones in RvR. Maybe two or three weeks tops on my end?
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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#38 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:16 pm

Urdeg wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:30 am
I didn't find genesis pieces to take that long, it helps to dedicate a day off to flipping zones in RvR. Maybe two or three weeks tops on my end?
It's not obtaining bags that's the problem, it's when you're suffering with the RNG and getting constant repeats.

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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#39 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:02 pm

The problem with the Genesis set is that the average is fine, but the variance is high. Outliers will be common and can reach quite extreme levels of good and bad luck. This is the eternal problem with blind rng in the manner the Genesis set has.

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Re: genesis farming is nightmare

Post#40 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:00 pm

I know your feelings, played my wp since 3 years and I still need the renmant genesis one.
Devs could put a genesis npc like the subj one.
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