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Lime
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Chosen underperforming vs Kotbs in group play

Post#1 » Fri May 31, 2019 8:22 am

Having played both an 80 knight and 66 Chosen I will say the knight is overperforming in group play compared to the Chosen by a large margin.

For 6 man and scenario play: 2h Chosen vs 2h Knight comparison.

Knight has 2 tactics available from tree that basically act as an offensive and defensive tactic for the entire group. Chosen does not get anywhere near that kind of group utility power, nor does it really make up the utility by doing much more damage or offering anything more than the knight. It simply misses out on 2 extra group utilities.

1. Arcing Swings: 10% crit expose for anyone attacking your target. Gives everyone attacking your target +10% crit, including the knight, Chosen mirror is laughably worse as the chosen gets 15% self crit from the mirror tactic. So 5% self crit vs 10% crit for your group/warband. Giving classes with crit damage bonuses like WH/WL/ASW/BW 10% crit is way stronger than giving a low dps tank class 5% critical strike it's not even a comparison.

2. Focused mending: +15% healing for your entire group with stay focused aura active: A defensive tactic for your entire group while the chosen mirror is way higher in the same tree and only effects the chosen.

3. Vigilance vs Oppression: 50% damage reduction with 25% dmg penalty vs 15% damage reduction and no penalty. Knight defensive tree cooldown is so much stronger.

4. Solar Flare: Needs to be mirror'd to Chosen for fort play.

Reccomendation/Solution: I don't think nerfing the utility knight is the way but rather, give the chosen some group utility of his own to balance.

Chosen needs some group utility on par with his mirror. Some ideas are.

Rending Blade now causes your target to be less likely to defend an attack or causes some utility.
Daemonclaw now effects your group.
Embrace the winds changed to 15% heal bonus for group on resist aura. Swapped with siphoned energy tactic in right tree.
Tainted Wound tactic changed to reduce critical strike chance or buffed somehow.
Suppression and Oppression made undefendable.
Oppression: Buff the damage reduction to 25-35% from 15% and add a damage buff of 25-35%.
Tzeech's Reflection: (Right tree final skill) Now also effects your group/guard target or made somehow less underwhelming.
Solar Flare: Given to chosen for fort balance.

Some matching group utility would go along way to making Chosen not feel weak in comparison to the Kotbs.
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Re: Chosen underperforming vs Kotbs in group play

Post#2 » Fri May 31, 2019 8:25 am

Hello, Lime

We post all the balance suggestions on Balance Forums so you are welcome to make a thread there in Proposals section. But be careful if you post too many ideas at once, there is a chance that it won't be possible to discuss them. So you may start with the basic ones.

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