[WL] Blindsided rework

[Sundowner]

N/A anymore, mods can delete/close topic

[nat3s]

Guardian is a 1v1 beast, giving them a cd increase on top of their insane burst and high armour is just going to make the situation worse.

WL are great in a ST melee train, they already have more WB, Group and Solo tools than most other classes.

[Sundowner]

Guardian is a 1v1 beast, giving them a cd increase on top of their insane burst and high armour is just going to make the situation worse.

WL are great in a ST melee train, they already have more WB, Group and Solo tools than most other classes.

WL already has ST cd increase, so it doesn't change ST balance, affect only large scale.

WL has very little tools compared to mSH and mara, giving them 1 more utility tool is not dramatic game changer when mara has aoe kd, better interrupt (better area of effect and less cooldown).

Also, wl has as much armor as mara and mSH, but is less survivable than them (mSH self armor buff, mara armor shrug)

AOE dmg of WL is not more than mara's too (they both have 50% armor pen (actually mara has 50% pen which is better than wl's armor ignore), mara has 50% crit damage tactic (wl's is tied to pet, i.e. almost useless in city/wb fights)) on top of than mara has a lot more utility tools than WL, so adding one utility thus making cd increases 2 and 2 on order and destro side won't be game changing

[XsorrowerX]

The better idea is to give stuff like that to WH or SW and the lesser desired warband classes, so they are more viable. WL is already viable in all areas of the game.

[satanlol]

Are you speaking of build up time? Marauders can modify MoT to increase build up time, not cooldown increase. It’s a big difference between build up time and cooldown increase.

[Sundowner]

Are you speaking of build up time? Marauders can modify MoT to increase build up time, not cooldown increase. It’s a big difference between build up time and cooldown increase.

My bad, will change OP

[wildwindblows]

Guardian is a 1v1 beast, giving them a cd increase on top of their insane burst and high armour is just going to make the situation worse.

WL are great in a ST melee train, they already have more WB, Group and Solo tools than most other classes.

WL already has ST cd increase, so it doesn't change ST balance, affect only large scale.

WL has very little tools compared to mSH and mara, giving them 1 more utility tool is not dramatic game changer when mara has aoe kd, better interrupt (better area of effect and less cooldown).

Also, wl has as much armor as mara and mSH, but is less survivable than them (mSH self armor buff, mara armor shrug)

AOE dmg of WL is not more than mara's too (they both have 50% armor pen (actually mara has 50% pen which is better than wl's armor ignore), mara has 50% crit damage tactic (wl's is tied to pet, i.e. almost useless in city/wb fights)) on top of than mara has a lot more utility tools than WL, so adding one utility thus making cd increases 2 and 2 on order and destro side won't be game changing

Most of the mara players rerolled to WL. IDK how do you think mara is powerfull than wl. Thats right mara has utilities like aoe kd, aoe disorient but for damage wise wl is far better than mara both st and aoe. If wl will get more utilities, this definitely break all balance.

[agemennon675]

Guardian is a 1v1 beast, giving them a cd increase on top of their insane burst and high armour is just going to make the situation worse.

WL are great in a ST melee train, they already have more WB, Group and Solo tools than most other classes.

WL already has ST cd increase, so it doesn't change ST balance, affect only large scale.

WL has very little tools compared to mSH and mara, giving them 1 more utility tool is not dramatic game changer when mara has aoe kd, better interrupt (better area of effect and less cooldown).

Also, wl has as much armor as mara and mSH, but is less survivable than them (mSH self armor buff, mara armor shrug)

AOE dmg of WL is not more than mara's too (they both have 50% armor pen (actually mara has 50% pen which is better than wl's armor ignore), mara has 50% crit damage tactic (wl's is tied to pet, i.e. almost useless in city/wb fights)) on top of than mara has a lot more utility tools than WL, so adding one utility thus making cd increases 2 and 2 on order and destro side won't be game changing

Most of the mara players rerolled to WL. IDK how do you think mara is powerfull than wl. Thats right mara has utilities like aoe kd, aoe disorient but for damage wise wl is far better than mara both st and aoe. If wl will get more utilities, this definitely break all balance.

So you think WL have better aoe capability than marauder ?

[wildwindblows]

WL already has ST cd increase, so it doesn't change ST balance, affect only large scale.

WL has very little tools compared to mSH and mara, giving them 1 more utility tool is not dramatic game changer when mara has aoe kd, better interrupt (better area of effect and less cooldown).

Also, wl has as much armor as mara and mSH, but is less survivable than them (mSH self armor buff, mara armor shrug)

AOE dmg of WL is not more than mara's too (they both have 50% armor pen (actually mara has 50% pen which is better than wl's armor ignore), mara has 50% crit damage tactic (wl's is tied to pet, i.e. almost useless in city/wb fights)) on top of than mara has a lot more utility tools than WL, so adding one utility thus making cd increases 2 and 2 on order and destro side won't be game changing

Most of the mara players rerolled to WL. IDK how do you think mara is powerfull than wl. Thats right mara has utilities like aoe kd, aoe disorient but for damage wise wl is far better than mara both st and aoe. If wl will get more utilities, this definitely break all balance.

So you think WL have better aoe capability than marauder ?

For aoe damage wise WL is better. For aoe utillity Mara is far better.