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Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:03 am
by DoomedDragon
Hey all,
I would like to suggest some changes to the warlord tier armor.
Currently it sits in between Invader and Sovereign in an awkward position for many since it also costs royal crests.
People are thus reluctant to invest in this tier because it is not "endgame" and rather save their precious crests for sovereign gear.
My proposal is to bump it up to sovereign tier, in terms of stats and costs.
This way it would feel more natrual to have an endgame gear choice for each left, middle and right branch of the skill tree.

And also just rename Sov alt to something more unique, perhaps "Celestial".

Cheers!

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:21 am
by Sulorie
The power difference hardly matters and it is a lot cheaper. People already use it for several reasons and increasing it's item level would only give more stats without a necessarity.

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 am
by saupreusse
Id rather reduce sov down to warlord and make it cheaper too.

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:00 am
by DoomedDragon
saupreusse wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 am Id rather reduce sov down to warlord and make it cheaper too.
Tha is also another solution, I just felt that since warlord also cost royal crests then they should have all been the same tier.

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:13 am
by MMXX43
Warlord needs some love, stats need to be a tad bit higher and destributed thoughtfully .

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:18 pm
by Orgruk
Not only the stats but also the set bonuses. I remember on live we had an 10% to reduce target's armor by 1800 chance for 10s on mdps' Warlord. Regarding the actual tendancy, would be good to see it back again, thus give a good kick to Warlord. ;)

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:31 pm
by Hugatsaga
Voted for warlord buff. Was thinking mostly about classes that have 3 clearly different and (more or less) viable specs (mostly dok / wp). Iirc for doks/wp's warlord is dual wield/2h dps set while sov and off sov are for heal & shield specs respectively. I dont see why dual wield / 2h dps spec should have worse stats than heal and shield set. SW and squig are probably in similar situation with skirmish / scout / assault spec.

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:55 pm
by Sulorie
Orgruk wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:18 pm Not only the stats but also the set bonuses. I remember on live we had an 10% to reduce target's armor by 1800 chance for 10s on mdps' Warlord. Regarding the actual tendancy, would be good to see it back again, thus give a good kick to Warlord. ;)
Guess why we don't have the proc here. Conq for WE/WH had 1500 armor debuff proc too.

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:09 pm
by Orgruk
Sulorie wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:55 pm
Spoiler:
Orgruk wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:18 pm Not only the stats but also the set bonuses. I remember on live we had an 10% to reduce target's armor by 1800 chance for 10s on mdps' Warlord. Regarding the actual tendancy, would be good to see it back again, thus give a good kick to Warlord. ;)
Guess why we don't have the proc here. Conq for WE/WH had 1500 armor debuff proc too.
Dunno :?:

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:13 pm
by mix12388
Its a nice suggestion but keep in mind that tyrant set is comin up and its gonna be on par with sov.. a better suggestion would be to lower it to invader tier so there will be two options instead of one on invader tier sets