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Re: Warlord stats for Chosen/SM

Post#11 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:10 pm

ashton007 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:53 pm
Oglaf wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:41 am
ashton007 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:23 am
Chosen still doesn't gain as much from armor pen. your main source of damage is spirit still. I never cared for the tactic as it was just a niche way to play chosen solo. I'm simply talking about the set bonus for the gear. They changed daemonclaw because chosen gains minimum from ws. well the same applies to end game gear sets that take weeks/months to farm.
The point is that BG/BO doesn't lose damage when stacking up utility skills (like snare, various debuffs/buffs) but every time a Chosen does he loses a lot of damage because he doesn't spam Ravage. Meanwhile a BG/BO has an Armor Debuff that increases the damage of all their skills because they are physical.

Not saying that WS is good, its bad. But it is a bandaid the DPS Chosen can use rather than an Armor Debuff. Not that they should have to, but they kinda do. If you remove WS from various Chosen armor/weapons without changing Chosen as well, you're directly nerfing the overall DPS of the class.

EDIT: Not to mentioning missing out on the phat 2H auto-attack bursts which are also physical damage.
Of course chosen gains from it. it just doesnt gain what a bg/bo does. the % of damage for those classes with armor pen is much higher than that of chosen. chosen would gain more from a 4% dmg bonus or maybe 5% crit chance even. The armor pen isnt specefic to chosen. but im speaking for SM all the same here. Magic dmg classes do not need armor pen.
You're making the mistake of bunching Chosen together with SM.

SM has far, faaaaaaaar more non-physical abilities by default.

Chosen hasn't been a "magic damage class" since it (and KoTBS) lost their damage converting-tactic.

Again, removal of WS on Chosen gear would be a huge nerf.

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Re: Warlord stats for Chosen/SM

Post#12 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:11 pm

Ravage, Relentless, Touch of Palsy, Rending Blade, and Seeping Wound are all the most frequently used and highest damaging abilities a chosen uses. Everything else is on a 10 second + timer and is used for the buff, debuff, or to remove blessings/drain AP.

Chosen is for sure still a spirit damage based class, not sure where you see otherwise.

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ashton007
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Re: Warlord stats for Chosen/SM

Post#13 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:14 pm

Detangler wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:11 pm Ravage, Relentless, Touch of Palsy, Rending Blade, and Seeling Wound are all the most frequently used and highest damaging abilities a chosen uses. Everything else is on a 10 second + timer and is used for the buff, debuff, or to remove blessings/drain AP.

Chosen is for sure still a spirit damage based class, not sure where you see otherwise.
THIS. If it wasn't such a dead stat for chosen then explain the change to daemonclaw. The devs know better and as a rr82 chosen that has played since 2014 so do i.

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