Rebalancing Attributes: A chance for more diversity

[Grock]

total amount of base stats should be the same for everyone, if one race/class has lower Ini they should have higher something else

[Idrinth]

The ideas are very interesting, but no the the movement speed buff! everything else seems interesting

First that came up in my mind. Never the movement speed buff. Gamebreaking.

We're talking about ~3-4 points here for most people, flee is 40 points, just for a perspective it's a tiny bonus way, way lower than the differences in mount speed

[Ysaran]

So what point spending a lot rr if i got 30% with rr or 50% dont invest in fs3. Its so big numbers that dont make dif.
About topic, its good idea. But like other write some classes can stack a lot of main stat. So numbers should be balanced.

on my shaman i have FS4 and -20% chance to be critted. i will not negate BW crit chance, but i can basicly ignore any dps that has less than 20% chance to crit. just to make an example: a rr50 slayer/wl in full conqueror, with subj weaps have maybe 24% crit chance.
Slotting FS doesn't help you mitigate damage directli, but makes many enemies less effectivor or even completly ignorable

fs4 cost is bit to high. I think better spend into ini

That's highly debatable. FS4 gives -9% ctbc and cost 15RP. With 15 RP (actually, 10RP+ 5 free RP) you get 3 step of Impetus (+38 initiative). Now, if you use this super cool ctbc calculator (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0), or if you use the raw formula "your ctbc"=[3500/(your ini+35)]%, you can see by testing with some random value that +38 ini reduces your ctbc consistently only if you have very low ini (like 180 or so) and also that +38 ini will never decrese you ctbc by 9%.
The only advantage of Impetus is that you will more likely see stealthed WH/WE

[fabrizio3k]

It’s hard to propose stats changes without having the exact formula in which they are applied in game, and even then, remember the formula has already been tweaked around by the original mythic team for years.

That said, looks interesting but it would need some extensive gameplay in its own test server - you cannot deploy these kind of game changing modifications live.

[wargrimnir]

you cannot deploy these kind of game changing modifications live.

Yes we can, and we do.

Not that we're going to in this case, but don't delude yourself into thinking this isn't a development server first. We will test broken things on the playerbase that can't be effectively tested otherwise.
Everything in this post still applies and is actually what you've signed up for by playing here. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=16391

[Idrinth]

It’s hard to propose stats changes without having the exact formula in which they are applied in game, and even then, remember the formula has already been tweaked around by the original mythic team for years.

I left all current ones exactly the same to make sure not to upset the balance too much and supplied the formular for all new effects, what formula do you need?

That said, looks interesting but it would need some extensive gameplay in its own test server - you cannot deploy these kind of game changing modifications live.

I agree it would need some testing, as in deploy and see what happens

[emiliorv]

looks interesting but it would need some extensive gameplay in its own test server

You mean THIS test server?? LMAO

[Noslock]

Yes pls 12k hp on my 2h bo with 800 tough are not enough

[Sponn]

you cannot deploy these kind of game changing modifications live.

Yes we can, and we do.

Not that we're going to in this case, but don't delude yourself into thinking this isn't a development server first. We will test broken things on the playerbase that can't be effectively tested otherwise.
Everything in this post still applies and is actually what you've signed up for by playing here. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=16391

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[Bloodmasked]

on my shaman i have FS4 and -20% chance to be critted. i will not negate BW crit chance, but i can basicly ignore any dps that has less than 20% chance to crit. just to make an example: a rr50 slayer/wl in full conqueror, with subj weaps have maybe 24% crit chance.
Slotting FS doesn't help you mitigate damage directli, but makes many enemies less effectivor or even completly ignorable

fs4 cost is bit to high. I think better spend into ini

That's highly debatable. FS4 gives -9% ctbc and cost 15RP. With 15 RP (actually, 10RP+ 5 free RP) you get 3 step of Impetus (+38 initiative). Now, if you use this super cool ctbc calculator (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0), or if you use the raw formula "your ctbc"=[3500/(your ini+35)]%, you can see by testing with some random value that +38 ini reduces your ctbc consistently only if you have very low ini (like 180 or so) and also that +38 ini will never decrese you ctbc by 9%.
The only advantage of Impetus is that you will more likely see stealthed WH/WE

Yeah basically the only use for initiative past 230 or so is to make yourself immune to initative debuffs. Im not sure how many classes do that, WH bullet, WP (dps/shield), SM (stat steal), to name a few.