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Kpi
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Fortress leavers

Post#1 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:50 pm

In the same way as player who dont join / leave to SC have a Quitter debuff, add some similar to players who don't join or leave the fortress.

Is very bored see Destro push to fortresses and don't join on it... Look like the Destros only follow the zerg and dont play ROR, only follow the Zerg

Maybe a -50% RR/EXP debuff or a 50% stats for 45 min if they leave or don't join the fortress, can do the players play to the game and go inside the frotress
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#2 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:54 pm

i can partially understand for the leave part (even if you cant force people to stay) but the one who dont join probably have better things to do or they dont need forts.
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#3 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:59 pm

I agree a fort debuff for people inside/with reservations might be something useful. There has been quite some drama on both sides over the last year in regards to organised warbands pushing one fort, skipping it, then pushing another end-zone/fort altogether. But the timer is a tricky business. If you set a 20 minute timer that's nothing, since it takes around that time just to take an empty fort. Forty? Maybe... /shrug

I doubt it would be a popular decision though. Aren't we lucky to have Wargrimnir then. :D
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#4 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:03 pm

Noslock wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:54 pm
i can partially understand for the leave part (even if you cant force people to stay) but the one who dont join probably have better things to do or they dont need forts.
A lot of destros move to another Fortress... this is not a valid argument
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#5 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:04 pm

If such things should be added, it has to be ensured that ppl who drop by accident or disconnect, don't get punished. For example, getting punted of a fort and die -> you respawn outside of the fort...
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#6 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:52 pm

b00n wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:04 pm
If such things should be added, it has to be ensured that ppl who drop by accident or disconnect, don't get punished. For example, getting punted of a fort and die -> you respawn outside of the fort...
That's a valid point.

Disconnects could be handled (albeit it's still a bit iffy since it leaves a small backdoor for abuse), but people being punted outside fort? Not sure how the game could even handle that.

If you left fort AND last 5/10 incoming attacks contains a punt maybe? That might be a strain on performance (you would have to do that check for everyone leaving the fort).

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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#7 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:52 pm

Why exactly should this be done? If someone leaves a fort another can take his spot

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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#8 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:58 pm

Elemint wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:52 pm
Why exactly should this be done? If someone leaves a fort another can take his spot
Because usually no one take the spot
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#9 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:02 pm

Leaving forts can be strategic in many cases, it is not the final phase of the campaign after all. Many coordinated warbands and guilds in general tend to bait a fort and push another that has a bigger win percentage in order to reach city, the final stage of the campaign.

Moreover, many also leave the fort to defend another, when they're sure that the current fort and its gate have been pushed back to 100%. So again, it's a strategic move.

It is totally OK if you prefer staying for the rewards of the fort, or if you dislike city instances, but leaving forts/keep sieges in a strategic way is part of the game and many like keeping that freewill.
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Re: Fortress leavers

Post#10 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:08 pm

I mean. If that's the intended functionality, ok.

But it might feel to some players as arbitrary and inconsistent (you get leaver debuff for scenarios and cities; both closed environments).

I guess we can't complain about Gitbane and his gang anymore. :lol: :lol:

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