Re: Sham/Am New mechanic is out !
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:04 pm
Swap ap drain and fotg/eov? Make it a 13pt ability in a dps tree.
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it would be enough to give EoV at r40 instead of Law Of Age. but imo AP drain at 13 pt would be bs. AP drain should stay at 9pt
I really can't believe WP are calling for shaman nerfs. I have really seen it all now. I really think they just come here to get what ever nerf they can calling all destro classes OP. Watch some streams, Svarz is a really good dps shaman, plays ranked ect. Since the nerf you can't kite much anymore you get caught so often now. I don't even take the tactic anymore 25% chance to proc is bad enough. Slayers and WL easily catch you and the amount of cc in this game makes it almost impossible to get away. Unless the people chasing them are just bad.detrap wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:15 amI meant they can put out the most heals, I don't know where op got the idea they can't.Ysaran wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:44 amThere's no such thing as "best healer in game". every healer hasi is own role to cover. you can't stack WP/AM/RP because it is "the best healer in game (in your opinion)". it's a recipe for failing hard. AM can perform well only with a SM in party, while WP and RP can do their job without any condition attached.
WP has sustained AoE heal and little utility (prayers, AP eventually), RP has hybrid AoE/ST heal and lot's of utility (Rune, AP rituals, absorb tactic,...) and AM has ST powerful ST heal (lots of HoT, Funnel Essence,...) and support ability (puddle, EoV, AoE AP drain, isnta rezz).
An AM can't do the job of a RP or a WP, it just doesn't have the same ability. They aren't comparable
I would call that very strange if WP are asking for that. Shamans and AM are very dependent on another class for cooldown decreases for them to do very well.havartii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:45 pmI really can't believe WP are calling for shaman nerfs. I have really seen it all now. I really think they just come here to get what ever nerf they can calling all destro classes OP. Watch some streams, Svarz is a really good dps shaman, plays ranked ect. Since the nerf you can't kite much anymore you get caught so often now. I don't even take the tactic anymore 25% chance to proc is bad enough. Slayers and WL easily catch you and the amount of cc in this game makes it almost impossible to get away. Unless the people chasing them are just bad.detrap wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:15 amI meant they can put out the most heals, I don't know where op got the idea they can't.Ysaran wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:44 am
There's no such thing as "best healer in game". every healer hasi is own role to cover. you can't stack WP/AM/RP because it is "the best healer in game (in your opinion)". it's a recipe for failing hard. AM can perform well only with a SM in party, while WP and RP can do their job without any condition attached.
WP has sustained AoE heal and little utility (prayers, AP eventually), RP has hybrid AoE/ST heal and lot's of utility (Rune, AP rituals, absorb tactic,...) and AM has ST powerful ST heal (lots of HoT, Funnel Essence,...) and support ability (puddle, EoV, AoE AP drain, isnta rezz).
An AM can't do the job of a RP or a WP, it just doesn't have the same ability. They aren't comparable
I can't speak for others AMs/Shamans, but it's mine main source of AP. As long as I remember to cast it and cover it, I have no ap starvation. Every healer has an ability that give him ap/essence (ap ritual, smite, supplication and so on). Moving AP drain at 13pt would lock out AM from most of the meta healing builds.
Cant speak for all aspects, but i was 2-3 days ago in a Solo ranked.
Likeaboss wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:48 amCant speak for all aspects, but i was 2-3 days ago in a Solo ranked.
Got perma AP drained by Shaman, Choosen Aura, BG's choking Fury and WE kiss...
In the end i had more protection than damage.... as dps
double AP pots used, 2 abilitys later i was out of AP again... i was literally useless