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Albane
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Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#1 » Mon May 17, 2021 6:36 pm

Getting 3x stacks multiple times is an obvious bug. Please fix this to match all other DoTs so that only the top damage can be stacked 3x.

Thank you.

If you need any more information, go play a Fort or Keep.

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Glorian
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#2 » Mon May 17, 2021 9:16 pm

Trolling 2021. :)

Seriously: It was part of SW rework some month ago.

Albane
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#3 » Mon May 17, 2021 11:00 pm

Glorian wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 9:16 pm
Trolling 2021. :)

Seriously: It was part of SW rework some month ago.
How many months ago? What did they rework?

Sulorie
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#4 » Mon May 17, 2021 11:57 pm

In a group, where you should be in fort, your healers can remove it easily, especially with cd reduction. Spamming aoe cleanse is a thing.
It can be devastating to players without healing, but forts are no solo content.
Dying is no option.

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Sybreal
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#5 » Tue May 18, 2021 12:38 am

Sulorie wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:57 pm
In a group, where you should be in fort, your healers can remove it easily, especially with cd reduction. Spamming aoe cleanse is a thing.
It can be devastating to players without healing, but forts are no solo content.
As a healer, I can tell you this is 100%, not the case. We had 2 DoKs with group cleanse and a Bork spamming waaagh!. It was impossible to keep BHA off the party. Not only is it using a GCD (and it's on a 5-second cooldown when not waaaghed) instead of healing, it can be instantly re-applied. And cleanse doesn't clean the highest stacked or longest duration ability, so you could have 3 3x stacks on you and keep cleansing the newest applied 1 stacks and just be getting dumpstered the entire time.

This is really only an issue in forts where there's a high concentration of SWs or if someone runs a dedicated SW wb in a fort (which has happened a few times already). In general oRvR, it's not really an issue. Still, it's kind of silly that it's the only skill in the game that stacks infinitely.

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Arthem
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#6 » Tue May 18, 2021 12:40 am

I would prefer if it was like Yer Bleedin on Squig. That was the mirror dot to BHA. They were both 15 second spammable dots. Now Yer Bleedin is 10 sec DoT hitting harder than before, BHA is still 15 seconds but only hits harder than before if you spend extra GCD to stack it. If you don't stack it, its trash damage btw.

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Arthem
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#7 » Tue May 18, 2021 12:41 am

Sybreal wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 12:38 am
Sulorie wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:57 pm
In a group, where you should be in fort, your healers can remove it easily, especially with cd reduction. Spamming aoe cleanse is a thing.
It can be devastating to players without healing, but forts are no solo content.
As a healer, I can tell you this is 100%, not the case. We had 2 DoKs with group cleanse and a Bork spamming waaagh!. It was impossible to keep BHA off the party. Not only is it using a GCD (and it's on a 5-second cooldown when not waaaghed) instead of healing, it can be instantly re-applied. And cleanse doesn't clean the highest stacked or longest duration ability, so you could have 3 3x stacks on you and keep cleansing the newest applied 1 stacks and just be getting dumpstered the entire time.

This is really only an issue in forts where there's a high concentration of SWs or if someone runs a dedicated SW wb in a fort (which has happened a few times already). In general oRvR, it's not really an issue. Still, it's kind of silly that it's the only skill in the game that stacks infinitely.
That's because its spammable and or if there are multiple SW's. Its such a boring one dimensional playstyle on SW atm as they just spam the same ability 24/7. Its not fun to play nor fun to play against.

Sulorie
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#8 » Tue May 18, 2021 6:25 am

Sybreal wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 12:38 am


As a healer, I can tell you this is 100%, not the case. We had 2 DoKs with group cleanse and a Bork spamming waaagh!. It was impossible to keep BHA off the party. Not only is it using a GCD (and it's on a 5-second cooldown when not waaaghed) instead of healing, it can be instantly re-applied. And cleanse doesn't clean the highest stacked or longest duration ability, so you could have 3 3x stacks on you and keep cleansing the newest applied 1 stacks and just be getting dumpstered the entire time.

This is really only an issue in forts where there's a high concentration of SWs or if someone runs a dedicated SW wb in a fort (which has happened a few times already). In general oRvR, it's not really an issue. Still, it's kind of silly that it's the only skill in the game that stacks infinitely.
Hmmm, cleanse is supposed to remove the oldest debuff. I guess stacking BHA turns the whole stack into a newly applied dot and therefore it's not removed.
And as long as it gets refreshed the whole stack stays "new".
Any dot from x players stacks, so triple stacks from x players stack too, this working as intended and in line with any other dot.
The playstyle is indeed boring but currently they have no better aoe skill.

Considering the cleanse problematic, I would prefer the following. BHA refreshes duration 3 times into x3 stack. Then the dot can't be refreshed until duration of 15 sec has ended. You could cast x2 BHA, then a 2nd dot as cover and finally x3 BHA. Then you have to wait until either duration is over or someone cleansed it before reapply.
Dying is no option.

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wachlarz
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#9 » Tue May 18, 2021 9:16 am

Ther are so many debuffs from all classes that clense its a random.

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Akalukz
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Re: Fix Broadhead Arrows to match other DoTs

Post#10 » Tue May 18, 2021 12:35 pm

it also has to bypass defenses 3x to stack 3 times, also i believe it requires a tactic to work as aoe. The biggest issue is the way it refreshes it's own duration. Possibly keep seprate times for each of the 3 stacks.
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