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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#31 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:17 pm

Meliannia wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:02 pm
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Xergon wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:48 pm [
population balance cannot and should not ever be impacted by outside (Devs/GMs) things. Its should be on the players to pick which side they want to play. In perfect world you would like to have 50%vs%50% which means perfect balance population,
But Blizz did it, it was even done as far back as 2006 in WoW, Management identified extremely quickly servers that were getting slanted towards one faction (over 65% pop,) realised immediately this was not good for the long term of the game, and acted decisively and swiftly to stop this becoming overwhelmingly unplayable for the other faction, simply by stopping character creation for the larger faction until the population got to within 3% so 53 vs 47 instead of 66 vs 34 or w/e. Over a short space of time, i.e 3 months the server population per faction was equaled up and the issue nipped in the bud.

First of all, how you even compare WoW and Warhammer, WoW has no Open World PvP with zones focused on RvR Campaign, all it has that does in similar PvP scale is Battlegrounds and Arenas.

Second of all, have you ever checked WoW server pupulations ? There is no single server that is actually balanced, all servers are in huge favor of one of the Realm.
https://wowanalytica.com/statistics/region/eu
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Meliannia wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:02 pm Pop got up to 72% destro this week, and most of CET GMT time u have 1 order wb (if that) vs 4 to 7 destro wbs.
Imposing numbers limits on zones and stopping xrealming would make the game more competitive and stop the 1 sided faceroll. Would also bring back loyalty to your faction and not yourself which is more true to the heart of the game. So many Order are now simply going destro or logging out in CET GMT time to play other stuff, which is just making the issue worse.
Stopping Xrealming is actually what causes bigger and bigger disbalance between populations its sad that people still cannot understand that, and as long as this will remain as idea you will never have chance to achieve balanced population...
What you described is actually happening right now, original destro players plays their destro characters and thats why you have current situation...
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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#32 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:20 pm

Omegus wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:04 pm Oh population has swing back to destro now for a bit? Nice. Last time I played properly IC was on farm status and had been for months due to the higher order numbers.
Nope! you were probably dreaming all of that. "The Mel" has the right numbers. Wake up sheeple, order is being oppressed by destros sheer 70% pop advantage for years now
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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#33 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:50 am

Nope! you were probably dreaming all of that. "The Mel" has the right numbers. Wake up sheeple, order is being oppressed by destros sheer 70% pop advantage for years now
can't tell if this is a troll or not, destro was heavily outnumbered for like almost 2 years straight, and now things are starting to turn around

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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#34 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:52 am

Vegetaplays wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:50 am
Nope! you were probably dreaming all of that. "The Mel" has the right numbers. Wake up sheeple, order is being oppressed by destros sheer 70% pop advantage for years now
can't tell if this is a troll or not, destro was heavily outnumbered for like almost 2 years straight, and now things are starting to turn around
He is 100% trolling :)
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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#35 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:39 am

Want to get geared? When 1 side zergs literally everyone in the lakes farm bags on cooldown which might include sov and invader medals too, spec for ganks and roam around.
Want to have a good fight? Go join an actual rvr guild then.

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Meliannia
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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#36 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pm

Omegus wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:04 pm Oh population has swing back to destro now for a bit? Nice. Last time I played properly IC was on farm status and had been for months due to the higher order numbers.
that must have been 3 years ago
or in NA west coast time
IC has never been 'on farm' GMT CET time, and its rare as rocking horse plop that GMT CET Order get any IC cities at all, nearly all IC Cities are NA West coast time when CET GMT Order are asleep bene that way for 2years+
any cities during our prime time are almost always Altdorf.

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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#37 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:01 pm

Xergon wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:48 pm


First of all, how you even compare WoW and Warhammer, WoW has no Open World PvP with zones focused on RvR Campaign, all it has that does in similar PvP scale is Battlegrounds and Arenas.

Second of all, have you ever checked WoW server populations ? There is no single server that is actually balanced, all servers are in huge favour of one of the Realm.
i did say in 2006, not 2021
no idea what WoW has done or not done since i quit it for LOTROL back in 2006 ish
but in 2006 before 1st expansion blizz did prevent character creation for the larger faction to balance a few of the servers

If you read my posts you'd see i never said apply that here or compared WoW with WHOL
i was actually replying to you when you said devs/bosses should never tamper with population control and i pointed out it has been done before and successfully. yes this was over 15 yrs ago ya.

im in favour of 24hr lock out on xrealmers and a zone population lock out or maybe a queue time for people trying to get into the active zone, like there used to be on WoW or Rift when too many tried to log into the server you were told its a 17min wait you are number 48, or it a 45mins wait you are number 330 do you want to still queue this zone or go to another zone etc So no1 is prevented from logging in or creating a toon, but they are just blocked from the 1 zone due to the population imbalance til it gets to 55% vs 45%,or maybe if the zone isnt taken or defended move it to 60% vs 40% after a 1 hour timer?

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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#38 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:09 pm

Vegetaplays wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:50 am

can't tell if this is a troll or not, destro was heavily outnumbered for like almost 2 years straight, and now things are starting to turn around
again not reading the post
the post title says it's about TIME ZONES not factions
this is not about destro or order, it's about the TIME you play
its about if you play the GMT CET time zone its almost unplayable nowadays because of 100s of destro and xrealmers vs not many order 5 to 7 wbs vs 1 wb, 7 premades 70 to 99 in scens vs 0 or 1 premade 16 to 18hrs a day every day
and the west coast NA is Order stomping empty zones and x realmers running back to order and abandoning the fewer destro, so it effects destro too
any1 who says destro are outnumbered all the time or were always outnumbered for months, im not saying your'e not, you are prolly correct but you are or you were prolly playin NA west coast time

the post is about TIME ZONES, about WHEN people play, not destro vs order globally.

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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#39 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:18 pm

Meliannia wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pm
Omegus wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:04 pm Oh population has swing back to destro now for a bit? Nice. Last time I played properly IC was on farm status and had been for months due to the higher order numbers.
that must have been 3 years ago
or in NA west coast time
IC has never been 'on farm' GMT CET time, and its rare as rocking horse plop that GMT CET Order get any IC cities at all, nearly all IC Cities are NA West coast time when CET GMT Order are asleep bene that way for 2years+
any cities during our prime time are almost always Altdorf.
It was 1 or 2 month ago, i was there!

Always feels like it is a shorter period that order dominating destro, but it changes from time to time and it causes a lot of destro tears in the forum. Everyone here is calling one side out for dominating for years is just trolling or full of bullshit.

The population numbers postet with the screenshot showing 51%:49% from someone are not representive too, there the 72% destro must be a hardcore spike, but there were times last week where destro hit 59%-64% for a few hours.

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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

Post#40 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:43 pm

Meliannia wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pmIC has never been 'on farm' GMT CET time
Now you're trolling.
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