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Kendaric
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Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#1 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:17 pm

As the title says... it would be nice to have the scrolls that reduce your xp gain by 50%. They existed on live and were a good option for any players interested in questing and/or doing pqs for gear to prevent outleveling content.

Another item I'd love to see implemented again is the "Eternal 39" scroll.

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waerter
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#2 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:18 pm

If you want you can do all the quests after 40 also.
But if the idea is to experience corresponding content in the respective level, I would plead for the players to give the opportunity to debolster themselves in the PVE area. As soon as they are RVR flagged again, this debolster would disappear again.

bw10
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#3 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:49 pm

Kendaric wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:17 pm As the title says... it would be nice to have the scrolls that reduce your xp gain by 50%. They existed on live and were a good option for any players interested in questing and/or doing pqs for gear to prevent outleveling content.

Another item I'd love to see implemented again is the "Eternal 39" scroll.
These were deleted for a reason.

Reason was veteran players farming players effortlessly in scs for weeks. Imagine getting destroyed every day by same choppa/slayer/melee squig who racks up 15-20 kills every scenario and farms ur spaw

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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#4 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:12 pm

bw10 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:49 pm
Kendaric wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:17 pm As the title says... it would be nice to have the scrolls that reduce your xp gain by 50%. They existed on live and were a good option for any players interested in questing and/or doing pqs for gear to prevent outleveling content.

Another item I'd love to see implemented again is the "Eternal 39" scroll.
These were deleted for a reason.

Reason was veteran players farming players effortlessly in scs for weeks. Imagine getting destroyed every day by same choppa/slayer/melee squig who racks up 15-20 kills every scenario and farms ur spaw
Pug stomping in mid tier scenarios is not acceptable, in t4 is just fine :)

Sulorie
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#5 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:26 pm

Phantasm wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:12 pm


Pug stomping in mid tier scenarios is not acceptable, in t4 is just fine :)
Who would have thought that. :^)
People still get farmed by mid tier premades, so no change for the individual scenario outcome.
When one premade leaves midtier, the next is about to come. There was zero benefit with this change.
Just more t3 geared victims for t4 players - maybe this was the reason in the first place.
Last edited by Sulorie on Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Dying is no option.

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Kendaric
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#6 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:54 pm

bw10 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:49 pm
Kendaric wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:17 pm As the title says... it would be nice to have the scrolls that reduce your xp gain by 50%. They existed on live and were a good option for any players interested in questing and/or doing pqs for gear to prevent outleveling content.

Another item I'd love to see implemented again is the "Eternal 39" scroll.
These were deleted for a reason.

Reason was veteran players farming players effortlessly in scs for weeks. Imagine getting destroyed every day by same choppa/slayer/melee squig who racks up 15-20 kills every scenario and farms ur spaw
I could see that happening with the "Eternal 39" scroll, but I fail to see the problem with the 50% xp scroll.
If need be the scroll could be changed to work only when not PvP-flagged. In any case the use of such would be purely optional.
waerter wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:18 pm But if the idea is to experience corresponding content in the respective level, I would plead for the players to give the opportunity to debolster themselves in the PVE area. As soon as they are RVR flagged again, this debolster would disappear again.
That could work as a solution.

lemao
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#7 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:58 pm

T4 BIS players were logging their mid tier chars with lvl 35 + gear + talis to stomp
new undergeared + underleveled players because they would get stomped in t4 by more skilled 6 mans themselves. So yeah removing the scroll was definitely the right choice.
Increase the renown gain in mid tier but don´t stomp new players into oblivion because you can´t have a free ride in t4 scs.

bw10
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#8 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:20 pm

Sulorie wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:26 pm
Phantasm wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:12 pm


Pug stomping in mid tier scenarios is not acceptable, in t4 is just fine :)
Who would have thought that. :^)
People still get farmed by mid tier premades, so no change for the individual scenario outcome.
When one premade leaves midtier, the next is about to come. There was zero benefit with this change.
Just more to t3 geared victims for t4 players - maybe this was the reason in the first place.
Incorrect. A single twinked out mdps could kill average midtier char in few autoattacks. Autoattacks in 1k+ range against 4k hp players. Now apply that to aoe skills.

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Sulorie
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#9 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:47 pm

bw10 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:20 pm
Sulorie wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:26 pm
Phantasm wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:12 pm


Pug stomping in mid tier scenarios is not acceptable, in t4 is just fine :)
Who would have thought that. :^)
People still get farmed by mid tier premades, so no change for the individual scenario outcome.
When one premade leaves midtier, the next is about to come. There was zero benefit with this change.
Just more to t3 geared victims for t4 players - maybe this was the reason in the first place.
Incorrect. A single twinked out mdps could kill average midtier char in few autoattacks. Autoattacks in 1k+ range against 4k hp players. Now apply that to aoe skills.
Who has 4k HP with bolster in midtier? It's more like 6-7k HP.
Talismans are there to be used, it is just crafting, which isn't only relevant in t4 at endgame.
People die because of bad play and imbalanced groups.
For most classes sub30 gear is better than the lvl35 sets and you have a bolster, blaming gear gaps is some weak excuse. For those who don't want to learn it makes no difference where they get farmed, t2-3 or t4.
Dying is no option.

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Tanski
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Re: Implement the 50% xp scrolls for those of us who like to quest/PvE

Post#10 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:04 pm

All removing the scroll did is shift the problem.

No matter how much you cope, a fresh 40 is at a huge disadvantage compared to a 80 in sov. Add that with the decision to nerf renown gain and put the only really effective way to gain renown in weekend sc that is the most premaded content ( who typically only accept 70+ players in groups). Cmon, the 1-80 grind is ridiculous now.

Remember the time when keeps/forts/city used to give 50k + renown? Now they give about 10-20 tops even with high contribution.

Getting my WE to 78 took 6.5 days played, 4k kills. That is just too long of an investment , wow classic is considered to be an extremely grindy game and you can level to 60 in 100 hrs played.
75+ BG
80 Choppa/slyer
80 wl
70 + sm
70 bw/sorc
80 wh, we
60 sham/am

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