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Poll: What day should the tournament be at?

Poll ended at Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:52 pm

Saturday 30th 12pm PST/2PM CST/3pm EST/8PM GMT/9PM CET
18
72%
Sunday 31st 11pm PST/1PM CST/2pm EST/7PM GMT/8PM CET
7
28%
Total votes: 25

nocturnalguest
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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#11 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:31 pm

Very wise decision to cancel tournament cause of this well thinked out, discussed and community appreaciated decision on guard change to balance things out.

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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#12 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm

Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!
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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#13 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:47 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!
Honestly it would be long 10 minutes with even less kills than before due to people running 2snb tanks and more offensive groups with current 2h tanks would suffer even more due to not being able to pressure tanks only dps.
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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#14 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:49 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!

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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#15 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:49 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!
It's pretty easy to deduce what would happen: you would run shield tanks, TTK would be even longer (no 2h tanks providing assist damage and debuffs, like Crimson Death), 2h tanks wouldn't be represented, yadda yadda.
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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#16 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:52 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm I don't know what words mean, but here's a passive-aggressive post!
The purpose of a tournament is to play in a competitive setting, not to test things. This change is very drastic and changes a lot of peoples gameplans. They need to adapt to a potentially new meta, which requires practice before competing.

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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#17 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:52 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!

People gear themselves and prepare for this kind of thing trying to perform as well as they can in their role, if i am alwayus a 2h tank, after the changes, i have to either tell the tank to respec and probably make him go out of his comfort zone or outright find another tank in many cases.

I mean, i know how much you lot love to blame the playerbase and pretend its them being butthurt, whining or whatever but this is justified, i am sure they will do one at another date but right now, like 90% of the 6vs6 groups got screwed by the changes and will probably need to find new people at worst or at least change quite a bit how they play, so, time is neded for them either way.

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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#18 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:56 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!
Yeah... over the years, its not like all the top tanks in premade/smallscale never tried both spec, did the math and damage calculation, made video to analyze fights, to ultimately decide that 2H was necessary for small scale play to put enough pressure and win, while sustaining a very well thought out amount of defense so we are never quite really a good target even when taking guard damage.

Nah, we just kinda liked how the hammer looks and went with it :lol:
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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#19 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:56 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!
There's nothing to test - the impact of the changes is obvious. Since a 2h tank is no longer viable to fill a tank spot, and never was viable to fill a DPS spot, 2h tank is no longer viable for group play. What this means is that we lose some damage and debuffs and get stability & survivability from second SnB, increasing TTK even more. Matches between close groups are already low on kills, and wipes never happen, and now it will end with 1-2 kills per match, aka a snoozefest.

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Re: -Cancelled!!- 3rd 6v6 tournament! Saturday 30th! -cancelled!!-

Post#20 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:09 pm

saupreusse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 pm Instead of taking the event as the perfect opportunity to test the changes thoroughly and give proper feedback to the people that are responsible to adjust it, yall chose to go 100% butthurt on the day of release and miss the opportunity aswell as having a fun event. Good job everyone!
All the arguments have already been made.
1. Some of the best players and mathhammers attend these types of events (small scale) and can quickly deduce the impact.
2. As mentioned aswell that although its a fun tournament I do want people to also experience the top tier teams. And there is no way in hell they can ever be ready after such a change.

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