Return of Reckoning

Telen wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:16 pm

Azarael wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:05 pm Easiest thing to do initially is have detaunt cut both ways. 50% damage reduction on any damage effects from you that are on the detaunted target for as long as the detaunt lasts.

I just dont think when you are damaging someone you should be able to cut their damage in half. It means you dont have to think about who you are dotting and is another invitation for tanks to just ignore their backline as they can just detaunt anyone. Also even though you dont balance around 1s and 2s it should be taken into consideration. Particularly when AM/Shaman now have a mechanic that you can use to keep decent hots on yourself at all times. The lower tiers were already a AM playground.
Maybe if detaunts were handled differently where aoe detaunts dont break on dots but the ranged st ones do. That way some of the aoe damage classes have a oh **** button and dot classes get a small window but cant just load up one target detaunt and forget then repeat.

Arteker616 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:44 am

Wdova wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:42 am I havent noticed before patch but now it seems that Slayers Reckless Gamble is not affected by rage mechanic. After I noticed did some dummy test and it proves my suspection.

it never did . rage mechanic never affected procs.
There was howver once a long long time ago n live the procs did actualy critic. anyone with the old lifetaps weapons from b.s could tell you.

Telen wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:16 pm

Azarael wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:05 pm Easiest thing to do initially is have detaunt cut both ways. 50% damage reduction on any damage effects from you that are on the detaunted target for as long as the detaunt lasts.

I just dont think when you are damaging someone you should be able to cut their damage in half. It means you dont have to think about who you are dotting and is another invitation for tanks to just ignore their backline as they can just detaunt anyone. Also even though you dont balance around 1s and 2s it should be taken into consideration. Particularly when AM/Shaman now have a mechanic that you can use to keep decent hots on yourself at all times. The lower tiers were already a AM playground.
Maybe if detaunts were handled differently where aoe detaunts dont break on dots but the ranged st ones do. That way some of the aoe damage classes have a oh **** button and dot classes get a small window but cant just load up one target detaunt and forget then repeat.

Wdova wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:44 am

Arteker616 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:44 am

Wdova wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:42 am I havent noticed before patch but now it seems that Slayers Reckless Gamble is not affected by rage mechanic. After I noticed did some dummy test and it proves my suspection.

it never did . rage mechanic never affected procs.
There was howver once a long long time ago n live the procs did actualy critic. anyone with the old lifetaps weapons from b.s could tell you.

Its not about crits. I know that it does not crit. Its about dmg increase by 50% in full rage. In RoR dmg from riposte and jagged edge is not affected by 50% dmg increase from slayer/choppa rage mechanics, but I havent noticed that Reckless Gamble/Hurtin Time is not affected too. Not sure if this supossed to be like that because on Wiki ror I havent found any informations about this.

Raggaz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:32 am Does anyone realize detaunting a player that has a dot on them still triggers Auto attack?
Is this suppose to be working this way?

Go dot someone, detaunt them, stand by them. You will still auto attack.
Go detaunt someone, without any dots, you will not auto attack them.

Broken? intended?

Azarael wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:27 am

Wdova wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:44 am

Arteker616 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:44 am

it never did . rage mechanic never affected procs.
There was howver once a long long time ago n live the procs did actualy critic. anyone with the old lifetaps weapons from b.s could tell you.

Its not about crits. I know that it does not crit. Its about dmg increase by 50% in full rage. In RoR dmg from riposte and jagged edge is not affected by 50% dmg increase from slayer/choppa rage mechanics, but I havent noticed that Reckless Gamble/Hurtin Time is not affected too. Not sure if this supossed to be like that because on Wiki ror I havent found any informations about this.

Provide proof that Rage affected RG/H'T on live.

Azarael wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:27 am Provide proof that Rage affected RG/H'T on live.

Sulorie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:13 am You damage someone for half damage as well, you gain no advantage. Furthermore only your applied dots deal dmg, while your enemy can use all of his skills.
Why should a dot based class use e.g. 20-24sec dots, when your target could get heals and turn around to push you, while you are not able to detaunt? This doesn't matter much in 1vs1 but in any bigger fight it removes your important ability to detaunt. Or just replace those dots with short duration ones?
Dot and detaunt only works against no healers, e.g. solo roam and small scale against bad players. Halved dot dmg on detaunt is like detaunting the dot class, while still being able to use your full skill set, this is good enough to reduce the advantage of this tactic.