Return of Reckoning

Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:20 am

spiritbull wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:21 am

Grunbag wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:36 pm

Initially ABM and TA should not stack together . It’s a bug no one reported . TA is a ABM version for SA , that allow squig Herder to spam Pounce like WL . But there was an issue with assign pounce spam on ABM cause melee squig is dependant of his pet to stay in melee , so we created TA to replace ABM.

I have to fix this 950% damage boost and try how to prevent ABM and TA to stack .

Bug or not, but this 25% of damage in a cost of tactic slot was really NEEDED for Meely SH to have a slot in a WB. Even with 25%+25%+15% damage tactics you'd need to significantly invest into your SH (get high renown\equip close to BIS) to compete for a slot with 40/40 Sorc\Choppa. With 25% less damage SH doesn't have a place in organized warband. SHs should really be either given some utility abilities\tactics (something really worth reduction of WB damage by replacing Sorc or Choppa) or a way to increase their damage to competitive values...
Just my opinion nothing more, no offence intended

TA is not here to be an addition of ABM but replace it when you play melee squig.
If melee squig is useless without TA + ABM then we would have to review it i think.

Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:20 am TA is not here to be an addition of ABM but replace it when you play melee squig.
If melee squig is useless without TA + ABM then we would have to review it i think.

Natherul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:02 pm

Natherul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:02 pm

rameden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:45 pm

Natherul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:02 pm

Wait a second... So when does this end? I might have to take a day or two off from work

wargrimnir wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:17 pm

rameden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:45 pm

Natherul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:02 pm

Wait a second... So when does this end? I might have to take a day or two off from work

I took the week off of work, but that was totally unrelated.

Alfa1986 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:59 am

Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:20 am

spiritbull wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:21 am

Bug or not, but this 25% of damage in a cost of tactic slot was really NEEDED for Meely SH to have a slot in a WB. Even with 25%+25%+15% damage tactics you'd need to significantly invest into your SH (get high renown\equip close to BIS) to compete for a slot with 40/40 Sorc\Choppa. With 25% less damage SH doesn't have a place in organized warband. SHs should really be either given some utility abilities\tactics (something really worth reduction of WB damage by replacing Sorc or Choppa) or a way to increase their damage to competitive values...
Just my opinion nothing more, no offence intended

TA is not here to be an addition of ABM but replace it when you play melee squig.
If melee squig is useless without TA + ABM then we would have to review it i think.

I would advise you to consider possibility melee Squig in SA to use skills from other paths. otherwise it turns out to be too cut. It can't use disarm (if there is no battle squiq), silence, armor penetration, ini penetration, heal debuff, but have only one dps (although good), and average survival. Or need to change all time range on SA , SA on range, which in the dynamics of the battle is practically impossible. and else there are no needed enormous number skill points , which is almost useless.

Berzar wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:27 pm I don't usually post regarding balance changes, but I just wanted to pipe in on the SH issue with All By Meself and Territorial aggression.

I can understand that the original intent was for these not to stack, but they have been for the last four months, if not even longer. As always, changes are at the discretion of the team, and that's how it should be.

I will say though that these tactics working in tandem have led to the Melee Squig having a viable slot in warband play, and premade groups, and in my opinion creates a strong risk/reward class with multiple viable options of play through tactic swapping. If the class were to lose access to that build, it would be a really big blow to the class, especially if there isn't some kind of replacement for it.

If the class is deemed too strong by the Dev team with that setup, that's fine. I would just like to offer the idea that while the tactics working in tandem may have not been planned, that doesn't necessarily mean that it needs to be removed just for the sake of that original balance plan.

Before the class receives a fundamental change that will impact it for the foreseeable future, I hope this can be considered.

Thanks for reading!