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Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:02 pm
by Hat
I'm in The Ironclad scenario (T1) and we just won the SC but nobody can leave. The Timer also ran down to 0:00 and we still can't leave, i guess the patch broke it?

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:16 pm
by Zxul
Gangan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:32 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:46 pm
(...)

[Combat]

-Chance to crit and chance to defend is now calculated using more precise floating point math, which means smaller gains of initiative, weaponskill, etc; will now work as intended as opposed to removing decimals.
Could you explain What's changed a bit more in detail, please? ^^
Testing- with 273 init I got 12.8% to be crit without any ren/items crit reduction. Who remembers how much it was before the change?

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:29 pm
by Rapzel
Zxul wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:16 pm
Gangan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:32 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:46 pm
(...)

[Combat]

-Chance to crit and chance to defend is now calculated using more precise floating point math, which means smaller gains of initiative, weaponskill, etc; will now work as intended as opposed to removing decimals.
Could you explain What's changed a bit more in detail, please? ^^
Testing- with 273 init I got 12.8% to be crit without any ren/items crit reduction. Who remembers how much it was before the change?
There was a bug that rounded everything down to the nearest integer.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... nknown.png

Example data of chance to be crit between 316-353 follows

Used to be:
Spoiler:
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 316
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 317
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 318
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 319
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 320
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 321
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 322
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 323
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 324
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 325
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 326
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 327
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 328
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 329
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 330
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 331
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 332
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 333
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 334
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 335
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 336
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 337
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 338
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 339
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 340
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 341
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 342
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 343
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 344
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 345
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 346
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 347
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 348
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 349
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 350
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 351
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 352
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 353
the expected values:
Spoiler:
Chance to be crit: 9,97151, initiative: 316
Chance to be crit: 9,943182, initiative: 317
Chance to be crit: 9,915014, initiative: 318
Chance to be crit: 9,887006, initiative: 319
Chance to be crit: 9,859155, initiative: 320
Chance to be crit: 9,831461, initiative: 321
Chance to be crit: 9,803922, initiative: 322
Chance to be crit: 9,776536, initiative: 323
Chance to be crit: 9,749304, initiative: 324
Chance to be crit: 9,722222, initiative: 325
Chance to be crit: 9,695291, initiative: 326
Chance to be crit: 9,668509, initiative: 327
Chance to be crit: 9,641873, initiative: 328
Chance to be crit: 9,615385, initiative: 329
Chance to be crit: 9,589041, initiative: 330
Chance to be crit: 9,562841, initiative: 331
Chance to be crit: 9,536785, initiative: 332
Chance to be crit: 9,51087, initiative: 333
Chance to be crit: 9,485095, initiative: 334
Chance to be crit: 9,459459, initiative: 335
Chance to be crit: 9,433962, initiative: 336
Chance to be crit: 9,408602, initiative: 337
Chance to be crit: 9,383378, initiative: 338
Chance to be crit: 9,358289, initiative: 339
Chance to be crit: 9,333333, initiative: 340
Chance to be crit: 9,308511, initiative: 341
Chance to be crit: 9,283819, initiative: 342
Chance to be crit: 9,259259, initiative: 343
Chance to be crit: 9,234829, initiative: 344
Chance to be crit: 9,210526, initiative: 345
Chance to be crit: 9,186352, initiative: 346
Chance to be crit: 9,162304, initiative: 347
Chance to be crit: 9,138381, initiative: 348
Chance to be crit: 9,114583, initiative: 349
Chance to be crit: 9,090909, initiative: 350
Chance to be crit: 9,067357, initiative: 351
Chance to be crit: 9,043927, initiative: 352
Chance to be crit: 9,020618, initiative: 353

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:49 pm
by Gangan
Rapzel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:29 pm
Zxul wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:16 pm
Gangan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:32 pm


Could you explain What's changed a bit more in detail, please? ^^
Testing- with 273 init I got 12.8% to be crit without any ren/items crit reduction. Who remembers how much it was before the change?
There was a bug that rounded everything down to the nearest integer.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment ... nknown.png

Example data of chance to be crit between 316-353 follows

Used to be:
Spoiler:
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 316
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 317
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 318
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 319
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 320
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 321
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 322
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 323
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 324
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 325
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 326
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 327
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 328
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 329
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 330
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 331
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 332
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 333
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 334
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 335
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 336
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 337
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 338
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 339
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 340
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 341
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 342
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 343
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 344
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 345
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 346
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 347
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 348
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 349
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 350
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 351
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 352
Chance to be crit: 9, initiative: 353
the expected values:
Spoiler:
Chance to be crit: 9,97151, initiative: 316
Chance to be crit: 9,943182, initiative: 317
Chance to be crit: 9,915014, initiative: 318
Chance to be crit: 9,887006, initiative: 319
Chance to be crit: 9,859155, initiative: 320
Chance to be crit: 9,831461, initiative: 321
Chance to be crit: 9,803922, initiative: 322
Chance to be crit: 9,776536, initiative: 323
Chance to be crit: 9,749304, initiative: 324
Chance to be crit: 9,722222, initiative: 325
Chance to be crit: 9,695291, initiative: 326
Chance to be crit: 9,668509, initiative: 327
Chance to be crit: 9,641873, initiative: 328
Chance to be crit: 9,615385, initiative: 329
Chance to be crit: 9,589041, initiative: 330
Chance to be crit: 9,562841, initiative: 331
Chance to be crit: 9,536785, initiative: 332
Chance to be crit: 9,51087, initiative: 333
Chance to be crit: 9,485095, initiative: 334
Chance to be crit: 9,459459, initiative: 335
Chance to be crit: 9,433962, initiative: 336
Chance to be crit: 9,408602, initiative: 337
Chance to be crit: 9,383378, initiative: 338
Chance to be crit: 9,358289, initiative: 339
Chance to be crit: 9,333333, initiative: 340
Chance to be crit: 9,308511, initiative: 341
Chance to be crit: 9,283819, initiative: 342
Chance to be crit: 9,259259, initiative: 343
Chance to be crit: 9,234829, initiative: 344
Chance to be crit: 9,210526, initiative: 345
Chance to be crit: 9,186352, initiative: 346
Chance to be crit: 9,162304, initiative: 347
Chance to be crit: 9,138381, initiative: 348
Chance to be crit: 9,114583, initiative: 349
Chance to be crit: 9,090909, initiative: 350
Chance to be crit: 9,067357, initiative: 351
Chance to be crit: 9,043927, initiative: 352
Chance to be crit: 9,020618, initiative: 353
Thx 😁

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:20 am
by Kalell
Koha wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:34 pm
Something could detail the current avoidance / strikethrough mechanic ?

% avoidance is decreased by attacker main stat ?
i.e. parry decreased by attackers strength
only parry from ws or ws + items... tactic ? dual wielding ?
Nothing regarding this should have changed, but here is your answer:
altgrimreaper wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:55 am
(<defensive stat>/<offensive stat>*0.075)+(<defenders increase in defence> - <attackers reduction in defence>
So for example:
Spoiler:
You have 610 weaponskill.
You are dual wielding. (10%)
You have Reflexes I (3%).
Your opponent has 900 strength.
Your opponent has 5% parry strikethrough on their gear.
Then the result is:
610 / 900 * 7.5% + 10% + 3% - 5% = 15.08%
Sources:
Combat formulas
Stats

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:46 pm
by sancra
@zachary : any details please ?

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:55 pm
by sancra
OK fixed too, I does nothing but it seems it as been fixed remotely

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:59 am
by Natherul
updated with hotfix

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:55 am
by Kellanved
Dat hot fix is crazy.. 25 for win!? I understand Secrets want us to test ranked scenarios. But that is not a carrot on a stick anymore. Its a damn train of carrots right into face. xD
But i don't mind dat <3

Re: Patch Notes 15/12/2019

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:24 pm
by zumos2
Is Grace WP / Sacrifice DoK considered dps or heal for the ranked solo queue scenario?