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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#51 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:08 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:47 pm
Jeliel80 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:33 pm Absolutely senseless changes on the armor talismans, please revert it immediately and stop tweaking with core mechanics that you don't even understand obviously.
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#52 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:10 pm

Simple Solution: stop playing your Healer until this bad decision is reverted.
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#53 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:11 pm

zumos2 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:08 pm
wargrimnir wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:47 pm
Jeliel80 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:33 pm Absolutely senseless changes on the armor talismans, please revert it immediately and stop tweaking with core mechanics that you don't even understand obviously.
No.
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better listen to pepes ofc
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#54 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:12 pm

Ysaran wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:07 pm Can anyone explain me which were those light armoured classes that were overperforming. We're WH/WE stacking armor and oneshotti g ppl?
Well you see, solo WH's were not one shotting Zealot's and Shaman's that cared to 1. gear up 2. spec futile strikes 3. slot armor talismans. Beating up on someone that can't fight back and not instakilling them isn't good enough for their most important player demographic, the solo WH.

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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#55 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:15 pm

Also please look at dok/wp aoe detaunt, i think it needs some tuning down. ty
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#56 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:15 pm

Armor tali nerf is long overdue, should've happened long ago honestly

I'd love to see a re-scaling of gear armor values as well to bridge the gear gap a little bit. Higher values on lower end gear and reduced value growth as you go higher.
Right now a medium armor character in sov gear with a pot has over-capped armor, thats a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#57 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:16 pm

aa91837 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:15 pm Also please look at dok/wp aoe detaunt, i think it needs some tuning down. ty
Same for mara.

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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#58 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:17 pm

Personaly I find it ridiculous change for following reasons:
- It's nerf to aSW and mSH...
- Makes mDPS even better compared to rDPS, and who was outperforming? mDPS balls.
- Makes WP / DoK medium armor even stronger compared to other healers, thus you want to stack those over rest even more.

Only negatives.

IF the GOAL was to actualy NERF WP / DOK survivability, then theirs base armor should have been touched, not armor talis themselves.
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#59 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:20 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:50 pm
Hugatsaga wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:43 pm What was the reasoning behind this armor tali change exactly? Making the world more dangerous place for those who are already squishiest?

Like others have been said, please revert and leave core mechanics alone in future.
If you read the first part of the explanation, it was to bring them closer in line with the other defensive talisman, for Toughness. Armor talismans have been over-valued forever which is... unbalanced.
True that armor was better than toughness vs physical dmg. Still might be, havent done the math. But I dont see problem there. Toughness had edge vs non phys dmg but afaik problem was that most classes cant stack reasonable amount of toughness for it to be viable. Also meta is very phys dmg related at least in 6vs6/smaller scale hence armor is better.

Bringing those two defensive stats in line fixes some philosophical problem about how one stat shoudlnt be that much better than the other but at the same time brings tons of other problems. First of all its a quite significant indirect buff to physical dmg dealing dps (that didnt need buff) and big nerf to cloth healers (that didnt need nerf). Dont think AM players are having fun dying during kd duration when focused by 2 dps.
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Re: Patch Notes 26/02/2021

Post#60 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:21 pm

I think this is a very bad change in the long term.
With this change you are pushing light armor healers even more from meta.
You can already see 6-7 WP/DOKs setups in rvr.
Instead of punishing light armor classes even more you should look at AOE detuants and medium armor healers instead.
This change is a huge buff to every MDPS in the game especially to order setups with slayers and whs.

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