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[Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#21 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:59 am

2h is a bit more attractive for Choppas nowadays just because its the only way to get some extra single target potential after GtdC double hit got removed
Bleed em out can do noticeable damage if not cleansed and CD debuff and OHD can be useful as well.
Though you are still losing free parry and Bring it On

Main issue for both Choppa and Slayer is that you pretty much have to dedicate a tactic slot to make mid tree work coz it has huge number of exhaust abilities, but we don't have many free tactic slots to begin with
As such we get like 3 mandatory tactics and only 1 flexible slot and you just can't do much with that
And "rage management" tactics are problematic themselves. One prevents all exhaust, another is unnesessarily complicated and still isn't enough to make full use of the exhaustive abilities.
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#22 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:02 am

Grock wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:59 am 2h is a bit more attractive for Choppas nowadays just because its the only way to get some extra single target potential after GtdC double hit got removed
Bleed em out can do noticeable damage if not cleansed and CD debuff and OHD can be useful as well.
Though you are still losing free parry and Bring it On

Main issue for both Choppa and Slayer is that you pretty much have to dedicate a tactic slot to make mid tree work coz it has huge number of exhaust abilities, but we don't have many free tactic slots to begin with
As such we get like 3 mandatory tactics and only 1 flexible slot and you just can't do much with that
And "rage management" tactics are problematic themselves. One prevents all exhaust, another is unnesessarily complicated and still isn't enough to make full use of the exhaustive abilities.
this! yeah if holding grudges and choppa one got core toggle on mechanic that would lead to more viability

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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#23 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:07 am

oaliaen wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:02 pm Dual wield givs you a hidden 10% bonus in parry, 2 hand givs you a hidden 10% parry/block striketrough. Fact is 2h isnt worth cause you trade the parry for 1 skill ( No more Helpin ) and lose a lot of aoe potential.
You are wrong. 2H only gives block striketrough.
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#24 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:35 am

gke96 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:07 am
oaliaen wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:02 pm Dual wield givs you a hidden 10% bonus in parry, 2 hand givs you a hidden 10% parry/block striketrough. Fact is 2h isnt worth cause you trade the parry for 1 skill ( No more Helpin ) and lose a lot of aoe potential.
You are wrong. 2H only gives block striketrough.
Making the tree even more useless .. thanks for clarify it.
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#25 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:36 pm

No 2h build is lesser in all aspects of the game

1. 10% incoming avoidance beats anything outgoing om a squishy class
2. AA is about 1/3 of your damage and having 46% more offhand attacks as DW equals 46% more proc damage (abilities of 2h don’t top this)
3. Playing the mechanic isn’t yielding higher damage output

So no

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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#26 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:53 pm

Moonbiter wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:26 am
ismetto wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:23 pm
Dasso wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:33 pm thanks all for your answers
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Just yesterday I tested somthing even worse )
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And solo roaming...
That was really cool ) Waaaagh! No less.

WH gives me trouble and it was somthing about 1:1. 2 WH is also ok if they are not top geared) All one need is the Detaunt before knock.

Top geared lions was not easy too. It was even if one can throw axe before engagement and start it on yellow.

With others it was a mess) 2h choppa could kill his prey even in the middle of supporting party alone. No one can heal that fast.))
Keep try, maybe need more exp..
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#27 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 am

Wot Rules + Berserk Skill's game play, DEF mode..

New one!
https://youtu.be/590Ld5Xv7YE
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#28 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:43 pm

ismetto wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 am Wot Rules + Berserk Skill's game play, DEF mode..

New one!
https://youtu.be/590Ld5Xv7YE
Why your video got 25 fps?


Did the enemy team had 2 healer plus 1 dps am against 4 healer on your side? :)
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#29 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:20 pm

Sulorie wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:43 pm
ismetto wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 am Wot Rules + Berserk Skill's game play, DEF mode..

New one!
https://youtu.be/590Ld5Xv7YE
Why your video got 25 fps?


Did the enemy team had 2 healer plus 1 dps am against 4 healer on your side? :)
Huh? Man, I'm playing there alone too..
My computer is old, like me..
Playing solo and encountering surprises makes me more satisfied.
Since 2006, I like experimenting differently than the standard play style.
I'll probably quit the game soon. I hope you come across me while you play alone. Don't compare me with the "nerfedbutton" players

I try translate, my english sucks 😜
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Re: [Choppa] is the path of da Hitta (2hand build) good in pvp ?

Post#30 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:27 am

ismetto wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:20 pm
Sulorie wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:43 pm
ismetto wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 am Wot Rules + Berserk Skill's game play, DEF mode..

New one!
https://youtu.be/590Ld5Xv7YE
Why your video got 25 fps?


Did the enemy team had 2 healer plus 1 dps am against 4 healer on your side? :)
Huh? Man, I'm playing there alone too..
My computer is old, like me..
Playing solo and encountering surprises makes me more satisfied.
Since 2006, I like experimenting differently than the standard play style.
I'll probably quit the game soon. I hope you come across me while you play alone. Don't compare me with the "nerfedbutton" players

I try translate, my english sucks 😜
In that scenario you had a guard tank following you around, your team overall had a better setup so at least this video isn't very representative for your solo gameplay, unlike your other videos. :)
Dying is no option.

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