Offtopic - as I have read the numbers both classes can get I'm amazed I sometimes manage to kill sorc with my slayer
Think I'll roll the fireclown
Sorcerer vs BW
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Re: Sorcerer vs BW
I wouldn't give too much credit to these numbers. To get a 3k fireball you would need about 1250 Int/magic power while hitting a target with zero resistance and thoughness. And max rolling on your crit distribution. And of course the target cant have any damage mitigation effects.szejoza wrote:Offtopic - as I have read the numbers both classes can get I'm amazed I sometimes manage to kill sorc with my slayer
Think I'll roll the fireclown
The 3k is just a made up number that might be possible in some unrelevant scenario to make the sorc look worse than she is.
Re: Sorcerer vs BW
But don't get me wrong by the way, the first direct damage tree of Sorc is complete dogsh*t compared to BW, even Swell of Gloom and more spirit based attacks paired with the same type of debuff don't cut it compared to FFP, Burn Through, etc.
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Re: Sorcerer vs BW
My bolstered level 25 2h BG (in green gear, str talis) got a tasty 3351 BB crit yesterdayCimba wrote:I wouldn't give too much credit to these numbers. To get a 3k fireball you would need about 1250 Int/magic power while hitting a target with zero resistance and thoughness. And max rolling on your crit distribution. And of course the target cant have any damage mitigation effects.szejoza wrote:Offtopic - as I have read the numbers both classes can get I'm amazed I sometimes manage to kill sorc with my slayer
Think I'll roll the fireclown
The 3k is just a made up number that might be possible in some unrelevant scenario to make the sorc look worse than she is.
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Re: Sorcerer vs BW
Play sorc for ten minutes. Get disrupted. Play something else.
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Re: Sorcerer vs BW
Tbh. Comparing the "mirrors" is pretty much a waste of time as both realms got pros and cons in other ways. If you start ballancing the game from the mirror perspective you need to do it from scratch were all classes starts out from a blank cheet of paper or else you just gonna end up in other imballances.
Both Sorcs and BW are in the "functional" cathogory and shouldn't really be touched to much imo. They are neither OP or UP in any way.
That to me makes for a ballanced class.
Better would be to focus on classes that are the moast exclusuded out if groups and warbands when you have other choises avikible and try to fill that void.
Both Sorcs and BW are in the "functional" cathogory and shouldn't really be touched to much imo. They are neither OP or UP in any way.
That to me makes for a ballanced class.
Better would be to focus on classes that are the moast exclusuded out if groups and warbands when you have other choises avikible and try to fill that void.
Re: Sorcerer vs BW
So more or less every time you nuke a ChoppaCimba wrote:you would need about 1250 Int/magic power while hitting a target with zero resistance and thoughness. And max rolling on your crit distribution. And of course the target cant have any damage mitigation effects.
(The fact that you get free undef instas from 20pts into rdps avoidance is almost insulting)
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Re: Sorcerer vs BW
I do have trash resists: 386 CR (~= 34.5%), bolstered from 221.Haojin wrote:warcamp buff or murderball.
But must've been the former then since it was in RvR. What are the criteria for triggering warcamp buff? Just being in the vicinity of your own wc?
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Re: Sorcerer vs BW
resons why Bright Wizard compared to sorcerer is superior:
lets make an example fo SAME LEVEL, SAME GERA, SAME STATS (identical!) and same level of skill (theoretical world)
Burn Through make skills undefendable (the 2 mains you use as ST) while sorcerer has no suck skill. with recent gear you will read a lot of "Resist" or "Disrupt"
path of immolation playing with fire: heal debuff, which helps when you focus enemy healers . Sorcerer does not have such skill anywhere
on the same path, whitering heat is a 100 meters sanre aoe, sorcerer got a melee aoe snare which is worthless, if you got a melee on you you will die in a matter of seconds, roots or not. (considering also melee are always almost in possessions of skills which removes em)
stop, droop and roll. 100 meters stun? yes please! oh wait,.. sorcerer does not have any of such skills...
aoe is even worse for sorcerer, we got 8- feet 3 seconds cast (3 seconds!!) while BW having same cast time but having explosing force talent they can double the amount of aoe dmg making 3 sec cast time worth it for aoe spells.
all in all i rolled sorcerer for the skin, but do never ever expect to outclass any BW. we have no utility spells, no 100 ft root nor reliable disables or cc. just spam your rotation damage and hope your target goes down. any meee will easily kil you in a rotation and you are forced to wander in warband hoping no one targets you, thing which make it harder in scenarios.
is not all doom and gloom, but dont expect to make miracles either. i got also a BW and believe me, is a WORLD of difference compared to sorcerer.
hope this helped making your mind. good gaming and all the best to you
lets make an example fo SAME LEVEL, SAME GERA, SAME STATS (identical!) and same level of skill (theoretical world)
Burn Through make skills undefendable (the 2 mains you use as ST) while sorcerer has no suck skill. with recent gear you will read a lot of "Resist" or "Disrupt"
path of immolation playing with fire: heal debuff, which helps when you focus enemy healers . Sorcerer does not have such skill anywhere
on the same path, whitering heat is a 100 meters sanre aoe, sorcerer got a melee aoe snare which is worthless, if you got a melee on you you will die in a matter of seconds, roots or not. (considering also melee are always almost in possessions of skills which removes em)
stop, droop and roll. 100 meters stun? yes please! oh wait,.. sorcerer does not have any of such skills...
aoe is even worse for sorcerer, we got 8- feet 3 seconds cast (3 seconds!!) while BW having same cast time but having explosing force talent they can double the amount of aoe dmg making 3 sec cast time worth it for aoe spells.
all in all i rolled sorcerer for the skin, but do never ever expect to outclass any BW. we have no utility spells, no 100 ft root nor reliable disables or cc. just spam your rotation damage and hope your target goes down. any meee will easily kil you in a rotation and you are forced to wander in warband hoping no one targets you, thing which make it harder in scenarios.
is not all doom and gloom, but dont expect to make miracles either. i got also a BW and believe me, is a WORLD of difference compared to sorcerer.
hope this helped making your mind. good gaming and all the best to you
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