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Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:33 pm
by funnytroll
Why this two skills undefendable in description nothing say about this ?
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Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:41 pm
by TenTonHammer
crimson death isn’t undefedable

You should also share the combat log and oath stone isn’t a guaranteed 100% block

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:51 pm
by funnytroll
I use Oathstone (next 4 attack guaranteed to block),bg hits me in face both skill not blocked

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:00 pm
by adamthelc
Why wouldnt you be looking at a combat log for something like this?

Anyway who is to say the issue is with crimson death and wave of scorn. Couldnt oathstone be the problem? Do Crimson Death and Wave of Scorn ignore something like confusing movements also? Repel Blasphemy? untouchable? Shield Wall?

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:04 pm
by TenTonHammer
funnytroll wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:51 pm
I use Oathstone (next 4 attack guaranteed to block),bg hits me in face both skill not blocked
No almost guaranteed to block, you should try it with shield wall M2 for more conclusive testing

Also I talked to az in the past when discussing the original BG 2H buffs and he stated that in order to make crimson death undefendable there is a specific “box they need to tick” which they never did

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:09 pm
by TenTonHammer
adamthelc wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:00 pm
Why wouldnt you be looking at a combat log for something like this?
Because I was curious if it perhaps blocked the damage but still applied the crit debuff

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:34 pm
by funnytroll
tank m2,both skill hit and debuff
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and m1 melee
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Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:41 pm
by TenTonHammer
Now that is interesting and defiantly something wrong then
This should defiantly be bug trackered

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:03 pm
by ahzzag
Seen this in pve as well, damage could be parried for example by npc-mobs but debuff would be applied nevertheless.
Thought this works as it should. Didn't realy compared this with any other classes or skills to be honest.

Re: Black guard - Crimson death,Wave of scorn

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:21 pm
by adamthelc
BG has a lot of weird stuff like that. Isnt Elite Training the only thing that can defend against Rampage? Could be wrong about that, never tested it but remember someone talking about it.