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[DOK] Armour penetration

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[DOK] Armour penetration

Post#1 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:21 pm

A couple questions about armour penetration relevant to DPS dok builds.

1. I heard the armour penetration from weapon skill caps at 75%, is that correct?
2. If yes, Does armour penetration from items stack with this or is it capped at 75% still?
3. If yes, does Drowning in Blood stack with this or cap at 75%?

I am wondering the best way to balance stats on dps dok, seems like max WS is the way to go at the moment.

Thanks.

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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#2 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:23 pm

U have 75 % Ws on DoK !! ??

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Post#3 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:30 pm

wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:23 pm U have 75 % Ws on DoK !! ??
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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#4 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:32 pm

The moment 75% armor pen dok runs into toughness/anticrit toon, or into kiter, or just into any slayer, is always amusing.
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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#5 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:32 pm

I think its imposible on DoK have so big Ws.

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Post#6 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:19 pm

wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:32 pm I think its imposible on DoK have so big Ws.
maybe 850 WS with talis and renown into it. With 6 Bloodlord and 3 Beastlord ofc
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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#7 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:32 pm

Panodil wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:19 pm
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:32 pm I think its imposible on DoK have so big Ws.
maybe 850 WS with talis and renown into it. With 6 Bloodlord and 3 Beastlord ofc
The more important question though, is why. Not to mention that that build is useless vs toughness/anticrit build (extra fun part- no crits=no aa haste for glass cannon dok, and no heal debuff for that matter).
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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#8 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:40 pm

Zxul wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:32 pm
Panodil wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:19 pm
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:32 pm I think its imposible on DoK have so big Ws.
maybe 850 WS with talis and renown into it. With 6 Bloodlord and 3 Beastlord ofc
The more important question though, is why. Not to mention that that build is useless vs toughness/anticrit build (extra fun part- no crits=no aa haste for glass cannon dok, and no heal debuff for that matter).
Maybe no point going that high. But dok have decent crit without using renown, around 20-25%
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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#9 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm

Panodil wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:40 pm
Zxul wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:32 pm
Panodil wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:19 pm

maybe 850 WS with talis and renown into it. With 6 Bloodlord and 3 Beastlord ofc
The more important question though, is why. Not to mention that that build is useless vs toughness/anticrit build (extra fun part- no crits=no aa haste for glass cannon dok, and no heal debuff for that matter).
Maybe no point going that high. But dok have decent crit without using renown, around 20-25%
On my dok I run with FS3, extra -6% to be crit from items, and 273 init. Since devs specifically stated that negative crit works, it puts me at -10% or so be crit, turning that 20-25% to crit into 10-15%.

Now the fun part is I'm not fully anticrit tweaked- could get 2 redeye+2 vanq for another -8% to be crit, and getting FS4 in a few ranks for another -9%.
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Re: [DOK] Armour penetration

Post#10 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:21 pm

Zxul wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm
Panodil wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:40 pm
Zxul wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:32 pm

The more important question though, is why. Not to mention that that build is useless vs toughness/anticrit build (extra fun part- no crits=no aa haste for glass cannon dok, and no heal debuff for that matter).
Maybe no point going that high. But dok have decent crit without using renown, around 20-25%
On my dok I run with FS3, extra -6% to be crit from items, and 273 init. Since devs specifically stated that negative crit works, it puts me at -10% or so be crit, turning that 20-25% to crit into 10-15%.

Now the fun part is I'm not fully anticrit tweaked- could get 2 redeye+2 vanq for another -8% to be crit, and getting FS4 in a few ranks for another -9%.
U know that U can be kiled by normal attacks ? But Rly, DoK can have SO BIG #$%#$% WS in game ?

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