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[WE] BiS end game gear

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Huurl
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[WE] BiS end game gear

Post#1 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:00 pm

Hello there,

Since my Sorc is fully geared, I am currently returning to my previous love : my WE (80+).
Nowadays I wear 5 Invader pieces, 4 beastlord pieces and 2 genesis pieces with Forteress and Anathema daggers.
I play either Carnage/OyK build in WB or Treachery/Mark of Morathi/Sacrificial Stab in small scale roaming.
Strength : 986 (capping with potion or buff), WS : 399, Wounds 759.

My issue is I am wondering what should I target as end game gear. Since Armory is down I unfortunately can not be inspired by other WE settings. Royal tokens are pilling up but I want to waste none of them.

I guess a mix between Sov and Sentinel should do fine but I am unsure to use both jewels.
Should I still go for Strength and Wounds points ? May I go for some Weapon Skill too ?
A left hand Outlaw (proc -800 armor) appears to be appealing... but the Bastion daggers look very mighty...
Is there any jewel I may have forget ?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance.

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Krima
Posts: 602

Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#2 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:34 pm

Carnage/oyk = 5 sov / 3 triumph (gloves, belt, boots). focus WS stats

WB = 5 sov / 2sent (helmet for crit) / 2 triumph/victorius/vanquisher focus STR and crit

SS build IMO looks very weak and subpar comparing to WB/OYK
Krima - WE RR 87
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Huurl
Posts: 33

Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#3 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:18 pm

Thanks for your answer.
And about daggers I guess Forteress in main hand and Bastion in offhand ?

PieTreBlu
Posts: 30

Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#4 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:32 pm

Huurl wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:18 pm Thanks for your answer.
And about daggers I guess Forteress in main hand and Bastion in offhand ?
I don't play WE but generally you want your bloodlord weapon main hand because of the slow speed, I doubt it's any different for WE.

Krima
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Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#5 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:41 pm

Huurl wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:18 pm Thanks for your answer.
And about daggers I guess Forteress in main hand and Bastion in offhand ?
Thats correct. High dps on main hand is core.. also I dontlike slow speed on mainhand due to all the procs you can have.. Covenant, Sorc, kisses, witchbrew.
Fortress mainhand is the way to go.

2xSCE weapons is not bad either.. gives wounds, %crit / meele power/ + AP.

+ when u pick up your bloodlord dagger, choose the one with more STR on it.
Krima - WE RR 87
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PieTreBlu
Posts: 30

Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#6 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:32 pm

Krima wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:41 pm
Huurl wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:18 pm Thanks for your answer.
And about daggers I guess Forteress in main hand and Bastion in offhand ?
I dontlike slow speed on mainhand due to all the procs you can have.. Covenant, Sorc, kisses, witchbrew.
It seems dual wielding in WAR doesn't work in a very intuitive way. In this https://returnofreckoning.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=10249 very old thread (still I don't think the core mechanics of the game changed in all these years) it seem to suggest off hand attacks are a "proc" off main hand ones and most AA procs (kisses, covenant, etc) come from the main hand. So a faster weapon is definitely superior, especially for a brew WE.

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Rumpel
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Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#7 » Tue May 18, 2021 7:51 pm

Krima wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:34 pm Carnage/oyk = 5 sov / 3 triumph (gloves, belt, boots). focus WS stats
How much ws makes sense with 75% armorpen cap and bleeding edge?
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Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#8 » Tue May 18, 2021 9:06 pm

Rumpel wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 7:51 pm How much ws makes sense with 75% armorpen cap and bleeding edge?
Would be nice if someone can confirm 75% armpen cap, cause i did some test and it definitely doesnt shown up.
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Sarnai
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Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#9 » Tue May 18, 2021 9:34 pm

Atropik wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 9:06 pm
Rumpel wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 7:51 pm How much ws makes sense with 75% armorpen cap and bleeding edge?
Would be nice if someone can confirm 75% armpen cap, cause i did some test and it definitely doesnt shown up.
I think the 75% armor pen is the cap you can get from WS alone. Things like Bleeding Edge and Blessed Blades can push it over.
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Krima
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Re: [WE] BiS end game gear

Post#10 » Tue May 18, 2021 9:57 pm

Rumpel wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 7:51 pm
Krima wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:34 pm Carnage/oyk = 5 sov / 3 triumph (gloves, belt, boots). focus WS stats
How much ws makes sense with 75% armorpen cap and bleeding edge?
400 to 525 ws is good on Carnage WE .
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