[IRONBREAKER] Why the Preconception?

[Alfinnete]

What makes IB a tank so criticized? And why is there no plan for it?

[JoyToy]

Well first they are ALL 2 handers (there are a few reasons but for me its cuz the knockdown is on command rather than being reactive to being hit with shield. Another reason is cuz the conq gear which is shield based is so freakin hard to get with the current broken rvr system compared to sc gear). Second, they don't have an aoe stagger. Third, they are lacking in the aoe damage department.

[shaggyboomboom]

Because the ib doesnt bring much to a group except a decent armor debuff and a KD. They only buff one ally which makes pretty good for duo roaming, but not much else.

[Esperflame]

I disagree 100%. I find that IBs are very capable of bring a lot to the table. In fact I find most slayers really appreciate an IB as it's the only order tank with an Armor Debuff. The real problem with IBs is they have too many buffs with a very short duration. It's pretty much impossible to have them all up at the same time so you have to pick and choose which ones to keep active all the time and when to use the other buffs when they become useful.

[shaggyboomboom]

I disagree 100%. I find that IBs are very capable of bring a lot to the table. In fact I find most slayers really appreciate an IB as it's the only order tank with an Armor Debuff. The real problem with IBs is they have too many buffs with a very short duration. It's pretty much impossible to have them all up at the same time so you have to pick and choose which ones to keep active all the time and when to use the other buffs when they become useful.

All tanks have a armor debuff (beastlord + m1) and most of IB oathfriend buffs don't stack with either pots or kobs auras.

[Alfinnete]

I disagree 100%. I find that IBs are very capable of bring a lot to the table. In fact I find most slayers really appreciate an IB as it's the only order tank with an Armor Debuff. The real problem with IBs is they have too many buffs with a very short duration. It's pretty much impossible to have them all up at the same time so you have to pick and choose which ones to keep active all the time and when to use the other buffs when they become useful.

All tanks have a armor debuff (beastlord + m1) and most of IB oathfriend buffs don't stack with either pots or kobs auras.

This is the point, KOTBS has "everything" that the IB has more easily, if not free of charge.

[Arteker616]

I disagree 100%. I find that IBs are very capable of bring a lot to the table. In fact I find most slayers really appreciate an IB as it's the only order tank with an Armor Debuff. The real problem with IBs is they have too many buffs with a very short duration. It's pretty much impossible to have them all up at the same time so you have to pick and choose which ones to keep active all the time and when to use the other buffs when they become useful.

20 secs 1k armour buff.no cd
20 secs 114 str +wp for 441 cd 5 secs .
20 secs 114 thoughnes buff nocdbut
10secs 890 rune agaisnt magical atatcks, 10 secs cd.
10 secs 10% critic buff+str buff. with no cd .
10secs 25 parry+ ini buff with no cd .
20 secs , ap pump+114 ws self buff.

ib buffs are top notch , they last gor a good ammount of time, 10 secs to 20 secs . buffin ahead with ib and knowing when and what are to use is a must, the problem is alot of ibs are just pure dps tanks msot often dont even bother to buff , but the class himself is very good and capable on himself.

[Penril]

IB is simply harder to play, that's all.

[Sulorie]

Wasting moral for armor debuff or using a specific armor set doesn't compensate for a lacking debuff. In each case you skip other probably more useful options.

[Bobbiom]

20 secs 1k armour buff.no cd
20 secs 114 str +wp for 441 cd 5 secs .
20 secs 114 thoughnes buff nocdbut
10secs 890 rune agaisnt magical atatcks, 10 secs cd.
10 secs 10% critic buff+str buff. with no cd .
10secs 25 parry+ ini buff with no cd .
20 secs , ap pump+114 ws self buff.

Kneecapper: reduces target's chance to critally hit by up to 20%, at 100 grudge.