(IB) tanking rvr lords

[Wretch]

Hi guys , I have a question regarding the tanking of lords in rvr . Is their certain abilities that produce more hate than others , other than the one that states it does ( seems ineffective so far ) . Does my debuff abilities affect hate ? Tactics wise I found out long held grudge doesn’t work as I get an error message when equipping . I keep menace but not sure what other tactics might affect hate ? Perhaps increased chance to crit ?
Taunts are used of course , and for the most part I can hold the lord for the most part of a fight however I am finding that every minute or so I will lose aggro , often to a healer , sometimes lose it two or three times in a row before holding him again . Is threat purely based off dmg and taunts or would using grumble and mutter off cd be effective for my hate ? Am I doing something wrong by losing aggro on lord or is this a common ib issue ? Also I’m using rising anger to maintain my grudges as high as poss while tanking . Any feedback much appreciated
Ragebull

[Hargrim]

Well, losing aggro is probably healers fault. G'n'm can increase your hate I feel.

[Palitelj]

Spam grudging blow, use chellenge..
You can do all that, but if kotbs do same he will get aggro

[Wretch]

Well, losing aggro is probably healers fault. G'n'm can increase your hate I feel.

This makes me feel better. Consensus is also to cross guard , perhaps I should be switching guard to healer then when they aggro ? Or just punish them for not detaunting haha ?

[Wretch]

Spam grudging blow, use chellenge..
You can do all that, but if kotbs do same he will get aggro

What does Knight have with regards to hate generation that ib doesn’t ? Do auras create hate ?

[GodlessCrom]

On Your Guard! (the thorns aura) may cause additional threat.

[Ramasee]

A swordmaster can hold aggro indefinitely using blessing of heaven and blurring shock. Until another tank taunts, then the boss will turn for about 1s then back to you.