Return of Reckoning

Heh, thought it was just me. I get parried too sometimes when rampage is up.

I need more info about how this is happening

i wouldnt say to build upon, its a nice addition for certain stuff like to max reliability of debuffs/dmg. But there for it has certain draw backs. but you maybe right about the placement, but where to put it then? Handout 5pt inc healdebuff? and remeber drwafs are drawfs so they cant reach so far up

Grunbag wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:38 pm I need more info about how this is happening

Worth testing hitting a guarded target and see if it’s the parry from guard showing up.

I honestly don’t know what is causing it. I just noticed it happening in random situations. I was attack a BG and he parried like 3 of my recklessness hits intermittently and a few auto attacks after for one example.

Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Grunbag wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:11 pm choppa and slayer wasn't designed to be Line Breakers according to mythic ?

Probably off topic from op post but never mind I take the bait

Don’t see anything on my Choppa which does this or even close,

Not mythic creation but aoe pull work well to fk up tank wall/ first line also interrupt morale dump...

Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:32 pm

Grunbag wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:38 pm I need more info about how this is happening

Worth testing hitting a guarded target and see if it’s the parry from guard showing up.

Parry from guard dmg should not be seen by slayer just tank.

zgolec666 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:51 am

Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Grunbag wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:11 pm choppa and slayer wasn't designed to be Line Breakers according to mythic ?

Probably off topic from op post but never mind I take the bait

Don’t see anything on my Choppa which does this or even close,

Not mythic creation but aoe pull work well to fk up tank wall/ first line also interrupt morale dump...

Not really that useful as has limited effect 99% of the time and especially in WB vs WB immunities are free candy (especially on tank line) even if you are an organized WB there are plenty of leaches around doing random stuff .

My thinking of rampage it is a nice idea and the little guys need some help, but the skill is over tuned. 10 or 20 sec buff should be 5-10 max, effect should be either only on parry or only block or only 50% this would still be a good 5pt skill but not the current level where it is way better than a log of 13 pt skills, would end up being more situational

Acidic wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:58 am

zgolec666 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:51 am

Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Probably off topic from op post but never mind I take the bait

Don’t see anything on my Choppa which does this or even close,

Not mythic creation but aoe pull work well to fk up tank wall/ first line also interrupt morale dump...

Spoiler:

Not really that useful as has limited effect 99% of the time and especially in WB vs WB immunities are free candy (especially on tank line) even if you are an organized WB there are plenty of leaches around doing random stuff .

My thinking of rampage it is a nice idea and the little guys need some help, but the skill is over tuned. 10 or 20 sec buff should be 5-10 max, effect should be either only on parry or only block or only 50% this would still be a good 5pt skill but not the current level where it is way better than a log of 13 pt skills, would end up being more situational

dont know, mostlikley its a relict from old aor times, but if you see what else lies down on 5 pionts for drwafs (25% parry or 10% crit for 2 on ib) but if you place it higher then 9 points it would be much worse cause of the limitation of mastery points and it would make slayer a way less effective role in warbands...

What bothers me a bit is, considering some people here mentioning the OP-ness of a 5pt skill, that in the same context it's about warband play and breaking tank frontlines in oRvR.

I have never ever seen a warband with enough Slayers in oRvR rampaging through destruction tanks.
Why? Because Rampage on its own isn't an ability you just pop and spam you AoE on a frontline.

Like already mentioned above it needs to be timed and used with appropriate damaging abilities, on the right targets, in the right moment. We have like a hand full of great Slayers on this server I proudly fought with that are not simply considered cannon fodder, besides several other classes that in the hands of no-so-great players lead to threads screaming how OP they are.
No need to post examples in this case, we all read it.

In my opinion it comes down to the same wrong conclusion that is made on a regular basis: A few examples of a class in the hands of a good player leading to subjectively overperforming class mechanics.