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romgaard
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Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#1 » Sun May 31, 2020 5:33 pm

Like the subject.
What is the better choice when it comes to raw dps "grudge-born fury" or just spam heavyblow?

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Grock
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Re: Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#2 » Sun May 31, 2020 8:08 pm

IIRC Spamming Heavy Blow gives you 1 tick until the dot is reset

Using GBF right after it gives you two extra HB ticks + hits from GBF with extra crit + usually lines up your AA with the end of the channel for extra burst to combine with Earthshatter

Feelin too lazy to go test numbers and scaling right now
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Re: Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#3 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:59 am

You should go Heavy Blow -> Buff/Debuff -> Heavy Blow -> Buff/Debuff, then when you want to burst go with Heavy Blow -> Cave in -> Grudgeborn Fury -> Eartshatter+Auto Attack at the end of the channel
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Re: Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#4 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:04 pm

I didnt even realize ppl actually bring Grudgeborn Fury. How are yall speccing so high into that tree? Just skipping Oathbound?
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Re: Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#5 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:54 pm

That rotation works only on paper. In reality it's more like the following:

- start with Binding Grudge for the snare
- spam Heavy Blow until you wear down the target' absorb from one of the million sources
- buff yourself with Inspiring Attack in the process
- once target is stripped of absorbs, Taunt the target, then use Watch and Learn to buff your WS (Ancestor's Fury is not a good option here because both of thee have only 10s duration and use grudge, so you won't have 100 grudge Grudge Born Fury, so you will lose the same % of crit there... so its better to just use Watch and Learn)
- Cave-in knockdown
- if the knockdown landed then 1 Heavy Blow, then Grudge Born Fury

Small tip: if you start to channel Grudge Born Fury you can move a little bit away from the target / into cover if you are being focused as a squishy 2h tank, the channel will still finish. But be aware, some classes like Blackguard will parry your attacks even from behind/knocked down, nfi why, but it happens, so its better to use this skill on non-tank targets.
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romgaard
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Re: Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#6 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:19 am

So you wouldnt put "stone-breaker" or " sever blessing" into that rotation?

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Grock
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Re: Grudge-born fury or heavyblow spam?

Post#7 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:57 pm

Stonbreaker should be 20s long so it should be applied way before you go for burst, same with Inspiring Attack and Stubborn as Stone (potential 50% haste buff)
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