[IronBreaker] Grumble An’ Mutter

[hogun]

Hello Dev.

"- Grumble An’ Mutter - This ability is temporarily removed. Expected to return at a later date."

In a post from February, 7 months ago, you removed this ability from the Ironbreaker, stating that it was temporarily removed. When do you plan to reintroduce it?

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[Pinkywinky]

It’s not just the IB which needs its heal back. So does the BG. Removing it has hit the BG far more than the IB.

[hogun]

I don't share your opinion because the BG was buffed with the IB ability it received, and the new ability given to it in place of the heal is a very good one. This is not the case for the IB. The IB did not get one of the best two-handed abilities from the BG and instead received a ridiculous ability in exchange for the heal. But regardless of our views on the subject, this post is a question for the devs: when will they give us back our heal as announced in the February patch?

[Farrul]

It’s not just the IB which needs its heal back. So does the BG. Removing it has hit the BG far more than the IB.

No BG 2H has way more survivability than IB 2H, hence you are 100% wrong. Having said that both should get it back but the IB suffers way more.

[normanis]

maby not the best place to tell byt black orc abilitie are very similar to ib auto attack abilitie. only its st. so tank patch bg was winner.(its like kobs have crimson + ww) than is chosen , than ib than black orc ( from abilitie pov how usefeull they are added in tank pach)
dont fully get why auto attack need for order, if its reduce destro aa than maby its good (dps loose for destro)
slayer, wh,wl, has already such tactics. do they stuck with ib aa abilitie?

[Pinkywinky]

It’s not just the IB which needs its heal back. So does the BG. Removing it has hit the BG far more than the IB.

No BG 2H has way more survivability than IB 2H, hence you are 100% wrong. Having said that both should get it back but the IB suffers way more.

I would say you right if the BG had the same levels of amour that we can get to, plus the BG needs to keep it’s hate up and still is weaker then the our IB’s and yes I play an IB and BG

[Pinkywinky]

I don't share your opinion because the BG was buffed with the IB ability it received, and the new ability given to it in place of the heal is a very good one. This is not the case for the IB. The IB did not get one of the best two-handed abilities from the BG and instead received a ridiculous ability in exchange for the heal. But regardless of our views on the subject, this post is a question for the devs: when will they give us back our heal as announced in the February patch?

It should be for both, not just our IB’s getting the heal back. That would not be balance

[akisnaakkeli]

It’s not just the IB which needs its heal back. So does the BG. Removing it has hit the BG far more than the IB.

No BG 2H has way more survivability than IB 2H, hence you are 100% wrong. Having said that both should get it back but the IB suffers way more.

I would say you right if the BG had the same levels of amour that we can get to, plus the BG needs to keep it’s hate up and still is weaker then the our IB’s and yes I play an IB and BG

Oh you play both and have problems with BG hate but not with IB grudge? And say that IB is stronger? Bg getting CD reduction is SO Op its not even funny. Every Spec 45% Toughness = 1050 Toughness always without almost effort, but IB has armour tactic so its stronger? Or BG gets Hate when he hits someone, IB needs tactic to do that..

Super Belivable. Also doesnt Force of fury stack with armour pot? so Wtf really

Just give the Grumble an mutter back + For the Witch King copy paste it to Black orc and then give the Equivalent of Grumble back to BG as well. I think everyone who plays these classes would be more pleased than now. Waaagh?! Shouldnt require tactic like BG version is now. remove its 25% aa dmg. Give the 25% AA dmg to Chop Fasta! instead of aa haste so there is something to be gained there. Also give blorc 10% Crit buff like Sm gets, it synergizes nicely with 25% Crit dmg + 25% AA dmg increases

[Pinkywinky]

No BG 2H has way more survivability than IB 2H, hence you are 100% wrong. Having said that both should get it back but the IB suffers way more.

I would say you right if the BG had the same levels of amour that we can get to, plus the BG needs to keep it’s hate up and still is weaker then the our IB’s and yes I play an IB and BG

Oh you play both and have problems with BG hate but not with IB grudge? And say that IB is stronger? Bg getting CD reduction is SO Op its not even funny. Every Spec 45% Toughness = 1050 Toughness always without almost effort, but IB has armour tactic so its stronger? Or BG gets Hate when he hits someone, IB needs tactic to do that..

Super Belivable. Also doesnt Force of fury stack with armour pot? so Wtf really

Not going to go into this with you on this topic, but both should and needs to have their heal back, and be at the same level as each others heal. Or do you feel that is unfair

[Bollocks]

How do you say "pretty please" in EU ?