WP - New ability in Wrath, is it viable?

[catholicism198]

You all say it like the WP is the only career that requires you to run the same 4 tactics with no options for diversity to be viable- aside from a solo roaming WH and WE, it's the same for everyone else.

In order to make the AE detaunt a base ability they'd have to change it so that it only lasts 5-15 seconds and has a CD of at least double the duration of the detaunt to match that of a dps career- not counting the choppa/slayer, which have a 5 second detaunt on a 30 second CD. ...no dps career has an aoe detaunt that they can continually keep up without the use of a tactic.
So.... 5-15 second ae detaunt with 10-30 second CD unless you slot the tactic so you can keep it up 100% of the time.

So you want WP to have a crap detaunt AND do no damage AND have no survivability? Why not just delete the Wrath tree entirely at that point.

No, I'm saying that that's what they'd have to do to keep it in line with the other dps careers since you want it to be a full on dps career. "No survivability?" that's what guard and heals are for. Choppas and Slayers have the shittiest detaunt of them all and they're the ones that need it the most.
Why should WPs/DoKs be exempt?

[Mystry]

You all say it like the WP is the only career that requires you to run the same 4 tactics with no options for diversity to be viable- aside from a solo roaming WH and WE, it's the same for everyone else.

In order to make the AE detaunt a base ability they'd have to change it so that it only lasts 5-15 seconds and has a CD of at least double the duration of the detaunt to match that of a dps career- not counting the choppa/slayer, which have a 5 second detaunt on a 30 second CD. ...no dps career has an aoe detaunt that they can continually keep up without the use of a tactic.
So.... 5-15 second ae detaunt with 10-30 second CD unless you slot the tactic so you can keep it up 100% of the time.

So you want WP to have a crap detaunt AND do no damage AND have no survivability? Why not just delete the Wrath tree entirely at that point.

No, I'm saying that that's what they'd have to do to keep it in line with the other dps careers since you want it to be a full on dps career. "No survivability?" that's what guard and heals are for. Choppas and Slayers have the shittiest detaunt of them all and they're the ones that need it the most.
Why should WPs/DoKs be exempt?

Because even in the hypothetical situation in which WPs lackluster damage is fixed, they still lack many of the debuffs that DPS classes have to amplify damage on a target. WP can't reduce armor, can't reduce resistances, ect. Most importantly, they have practically zero appreciable AOE. What other melee DPS classes have no real AOE again? Witch Hunter/Witch Elf. Both of which have a good AOE detaunt. If Wrath is going to be the single target skullcrusher it's supposed to be, then it has to retain its detaunt, or it is immediately melted in a fight. Additionally, 'guard and heals' is not an acceptable rebuttal to the problem when considering a class in and of itself.