War Lion role in WB
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- GodlessCrom
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Re: War Lion role in WB
If I am not mistaken, its because 2handers hit harder than 1 handers. Ability damage scales off of weapon damage and weapon speed: 2handers have higher damage and slower speed than 1handers, and so even with lower base damage they hit as harder or harder on individual attacks.
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Re: War Lion role in WB
St wbs are pretty good if made well and do wonders. Even 1st fg playng around 3 aoe fgs is quite strong. And at such setup wl is quite strong cos of his mobility and burst. Theproblems with st setups at orvr are that u need good coordination, good players overall. And most important tank's sov anti cc skill without that ST group as a part of aoe wb is too hard to be effective
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- roadkillrobin
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Re: War Lion role in WB
2 Things.
Interupt Raze and being played by the Warband leader if the leader is the first one in and dies every time when playing the BW.
Interupt Raze and being played by the Warband leader if the leader is the first one in and dies every time when playing the BW.
- TenTonHammer
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Re: War Lion role in WB
while 2h might "hit harder" this is compensated for by 1 handers faster AA and proc potential?GodlessCrom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:00 pm If I am not mistaken, its because 2handers hit harder than 1 handers. Ability damage scales off of weapon damage and weapon speed: 2handers have higher damage and slower speed than 1handers, and so even with lower base damage they hit as harder or harder on individual attacks.
- GodlessCrom
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Re: War Lion role in WB
Well what I am saying is that the reason WL may have lower tooltip damage than Mara (which may not be true: has to be tested in game, as different classes in career builder use different level baselines. I.e. Mara uses lvl 25 base stats to show tooltip damage, but Black Guard is something like level 36 base stats IIRC.) is that the fact that they use 2 handed weapons means theyre individual attacks will always hit harder. So the lower tooltip damage might be to compensate for that scaling.TenTonHammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:54 pmwhile 2h might "hit harder" this is compensated for by 1 handers faster AA and proc potential?GodlessCrom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:00 pm If I am not mistaken, its because 2handers hit harder than 1 handers. Ability damage scales off of weapon damage and weapon speed: 2handers have higher damage and slower speed than 1handers, and so even with lower base damage they hit as harder or harder on individual attacks.
Not saying anything about 2h vs. DW balance, as we all know who wins there.
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Re: War Lion role in WB
Marauders dont have a giant cat doing more damage than the player.aa91837 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:37 pmbuy armor talismans and use armor potsProblem for destro
Too much burst and CC
WL base dmg lower than MaraSolution
Reduce damage and AP cost on single target
Guillotine 316 dmg vs Cull the Weak 309 dmg
Cutting Claw 216 dmg vs Force Opportunity 184 dmg
Impale 166 dmg vs Sundering Chop 159 dmg
Debilitate 191 dmg vs Cleave Limb 134 dmg
read aboveThe exact %reduction of damage/AP cost I can’t say but finger in the air based upon my low level WL would be 20
Re: War Lion role in WB
^Quality post
lets pick one thing from one class and compare it with one thing from another without looking at the rest
lets pick one thing from one class and compare it with one thing from another without looking at the rest
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- footpatrol2
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Re: War Lion role in WB
Pounce used to do AoE damage and echoing roar used to be in hunter tree. AoE on pounce helps but doesn't fix a defined role of a hunter WL except for m4 bomb but at these dirty slow rates forget about it.
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Think you should read what the thread is about.aa91837 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:37 pmbuy armor talismans and use armor potsProblem for destro
Too much burst and CC
WL base dmg lower than MaraSolution
Reduce damage and AP cost on single target
Guillotine 316 dmg vs Cull the Weak 309 dmg
Cutting Claw 216 dmg vs Force Opportunity 184 dmg
Impale 166 dmg vs Sundering Chop 159 dmg
Debilitate 191 dmg vs Cleave Limb 134 dmg
read aboveThe exact %reduction of damage/AP cost I can’t say but finger in the air based upon my low level WL would be 20
It’s about making WL more WB friendly
- footpatrol2
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Re: War Lion role in WB
If the m4 was a option the WL would have a role in WB's with blade and claw m4. That's 2400 damage 30 ft per WL. WL does have a self morale pump tactic. Combine that with AM's morale pumping. Take 4 WL's with m4 Blade and claw that's 9600 morale damage 30ft on pounce delivery which almost kills anything except super defttard tanks. Coordinate your pounce. If you want tanks tied to your pounce morale bomb take SM's.
Dirty slow morale rates don't help the WL find a role in wb's and the morale slow rates creates overall game imbalance.
Dirty slow morale rates don't help the WL find a role in wb's and the morale slow rates creates overall game imbalance.
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