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Chinesehero
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#11 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:39 pm

Karl wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:13 pm
Chinesehero wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:41 pm

the 50% added from Wods dont stack with yours base from RR or gear. it still 50%
Sure it does.
i have try use WODS and it still 50%
they dont stack with other
all parry disrupt and dorge is 50%

if it stack, u must be easy 100% and who can kill u????
i always use it against zerg but still die prove that not 100% even cant reach 80%

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Xergon
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#12 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:25 am

Chinesehero wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:39 pm
Karl wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:13 pm
Chinesehero wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:41 pm

the 50% added from Wods dont stack with yours base from RR or gear. it still 50%
Sure it does.
i have try use WODS and it still 50%
they dont stack with other
all parry disrupt and dorge is 50%

if it stack, u must be easy 100% and who can kill u????
i always use it against zerg but still die prove that not 100% even cant reach 80%
It's only ur stats value, it doesn't mean that you actually gonna Parry everything, u need to take into consideration enemy Strikethrough values aswell.
It works like AntiCrit, ur character window will show 0% but you will still be critted because u dont see enemy crit values.
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#13 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:23 am

Korhadreth wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:16 am
Xergon wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:12 pm On my SM 46RR Ruin i feel way stronger than on my KotBS 78RR Conq...

Avoidance levels on Perfect Balance with HTL up are simply sick...
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Not to mention that with 2H WoDS u can reach 100% easy...
Hey Xergon, why do you not lower chance to be crit? Is avoiding and mitigation better than lowering crits?
Is it better to avoid full damage of ability or just critical part of it ? At 46 RR i dont see any way to go full anticrit...
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#14 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:34 pm

Chinesehero wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:39 pm
Karl wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:13 pm
Chinesehero wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:41 pm

the 50% added from Wods dont stack with yours base from RR or gear. it still 50%
Sure it does.
i have try use WODS and it still 50%
they dont stack with other
all parry disrupt and dorge is 50%

if it stack, u must be easy 100% and who can kill u????
i always use it against zerg but still die prove that not 100% even cant reach 80%
Stats with and without WoDS pop:
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#15 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:23 pm

Karl wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:34 pm
Chinesehero wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:39 pm
Karl wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:13 pm

Sure it does.
i have try use WODS and it still 50%
they dont stack with other
all parry disrupt and dorge is 50%

if it stack, u must be easy 100% and who can kill u????
i always use it against zerg but still die prove that not 100% even cant reach 80%
Stats with and without WoDS pop:
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i just try it stack in number but in fact u dont get over 50%???? i think is a cap there
is show over 50% but the effect is 50%

dont believe those number . If it is so strong, no one do 1H and I wont be die easy

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Tesq
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#16 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:14 pm

Tactics and renown stacks.....

Wods dont stack just with parry buff....

Sm S+b is the tank with the highest avidance in game (and destru dont gave rampage) so is definetly worth invest in the strong point for rvr.
+Hardly concession (again rvr wb).

Then vaul buff and any sm is ready for rvr. But 2h ia cooler.
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#17 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:49 am

Xergon wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:12 pm On my SM 46RR Ruin i feel way stronger than on my KotBS 78RR Conq...

Avoidance levels on Perfect Balance with HTL up are simply sick...
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Not to mention that with 2H WoDS u can reach 100% easy...
I agree with the sm has the best avoidance in order side, however the mitigation of sm is so bad. Both kotbs and ib have 50 and 20% dmg deduction skill and tactics.

Sm will die instantly whatever u hv high level of avoidance. 100% of disrupt, parry do not mean u can avoid the dmg prefectly.

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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#18 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:03 am

kam19080 wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:49 am
Xergon wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:12 pm On my SM 46RR Ruin i feel way stronger than on my KotBS 78RR Conq...

Avoidance levels on Perfect Balance with HTL up are simply sick...
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Not to mention that with 2H WoDS u can reach 100% easy...
I agree with the sm has the best avoidance in order side, however the mitigation of sm is so bad. Both kotbs and ib have 50 and 20% dmg deduction skill and tactics.

Sm will die instantly whatever u hv high level of avoidance. 100% of disrupt, parry do not mean u can avoid the dmg prefectly.
Agreed, but SM has more Selfhealing and ShieldBubbles.
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#19 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:55 am

The higher avoidance potentialy mean more dmg reduction also with a more poteny absorb bubble ( no ICD as emp/chaos tactics and higher value) on vault buffer mean that stacking tougness is much miuch more effective on sm than anyother tank (togheter for diff reason with bg). It's harder tough reach high level with only rugged at disposition but since you have more avoidance you can use unortodox builds construction with gear via set mixing probably. (Just imputs as my sm is 2h).
And well yes always remember hardly concession for wb.
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Re: How to become a turtle tank as SM?

Post#20 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:01 am

Best thing about bubble build is that you can't crit into absorb.
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