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Nothing Is Wrong With WL. L2P!

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Re: Nothing Is Wrong With WL. L2P!

Post#21 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:57 pm

TenTonHammer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:47 pm
Ototo wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:09 pm
Sulorie wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:55 pm
This low range pull is causing you trouble?
Its causing that 10 choppas defend a keep versus 50+ attackers, cause the freaking pull is broken as hell. It's not low range, it's bugged and will pull anyone in around 65ft range. It's broken, and will pull without the need of a Line of Sight, a lot of times inside objects like doors and walls. It's over-abused, and it is cause it is undefendeable and you can pull tanks then kill them out of LoS of their healers.

I know this cause I have a choppa, and while in small scale the skill is just useless, give me a siege and 9 more choppas and I will defend any door forever.

The skill is broken and the WL burst is too. Both things need reworking, but only choppas pulling can win zones in RvR, that's the difference. That skill open or close Forts, WL burst mostly win scenarios and not much more.

As a point, if I see a SW, Engi, even WHs, going after me I just detaunt and try to survive the best I can. When I see a WL, just accept that I'm dead.
Bit of hyperbole here, choppa pull is 40ft not 65

As busted and stupid as the ability is due to the overbuffing from that dev who had no right to be in charge of balance it’s still not the I win button you claim it to be,

If 10 oogabooga choppa were able to hold off 50 order by pulling in 1 random target at a time that tell me that said group of order was incompetent, made no use of their ranged interrupts nor just bothered to moral bomb which is the real ORvR I win button


Everything else you mentioned line of sight, pulling through objects, that’s because all pulls are bugged and do that

I’m am not averse to deleting GTDC, pulls as a concept are stupid and destro doesn’t need an extra one over order
All counters to this skill require LoS. This skill itself is bugged and it doesn't. You may be interrupted once, maybe twice while using it, but no more cause staying out of LoS and pulling ppl inside objects works. Simple as that. Better than kill them so they be rezzed, and still slightly better than pull them out of LoS and kill them there while you are safe.

As said, these both things need a rework. WL burst and choppa undefendeable pull.

PD: To clarify, the trouble is playing this skill with the clear purpose of exploiting the bugs it has, and while the majority of destro players don't, I know from a couple guilds in which WBs I have been that specifically want their choppas to try to bug out ppl. This is the real problem behind this pull, its exploiting potential being used.
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