https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mm=&mt=&t=larsulu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:33 amNo doesn’t worths at all.TenTonHammer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:02 amYes draining swipe is bad on its own but is a powerful combo when used with BG choking fury
And draining swipe is not a ap drain.
If WL singletarget dmg gets nerfed,do they get a stronger aoe then?
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Re: If WL singletarget dmg gets nerfed,do they get a stronger aoe then?
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"AP drain"="you steal AP from an enemy and you gain AP". Draining Swipe isn't an AP drain, it doesn't even steal AP, it just decrease AP regen, at least that's what say the builderOtoto wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:33 pmhttps://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mm=&mt=&t=larsulu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:33 amNo doesn’t worths at all.TenTonHammer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:02 am Yes draining swipe is bad on its own but is a powerful combo when used with BG choking fury
And draining swipe is not a ap drain.
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Re: If WL singletarget dmg gets nerfed,do they get a stronger aoe then?
Correct, that’s why draining swipe is very bad.Ysaran wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:48 pm"AP drain"="you steal AP from an enemy and you gain AP". Draining Swipe isn't an AP drain, it doesn't even steal AP, it just decrease AP regen, at least that's what say the builder
10 cd and 5 sec duration LOL
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Re: If WL singletarget dmg gets nerfed,do they get a stronger aoe then?
Whr did I say that? I just linked the skill for reference. It doesn't need to be given to you for it to be drained from the enemy. You confuse "drain" with "steal": https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... lish/drain . Yes, it decrease AP regen by a whopping 50% for 10 seconds, so it does not simply "just do it", but effectively stop entirely the chances to use any skill in 1/2 of the GCDs of its duration if the enemy was low in AP to start with, in other words, if the enemy was at <20% of his AP pool when the effect was applied, he will only performs 5 skills in the next 10 seconds instead of 10 skills. Would I take the skill? No, cause surprisingly the Mara has way better things in the other trees, and the skill is not even decent compared to Monstro Morale drain, and Brut Increase of damage, but that's how crazy the Mara is, that the skill to decrease enemy damage potential by half is not worthy.Ysaran wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:48 pm"AP drain"="you steal AP from an enemy and you gain AP". Draining Swipe isn't an AP drain, it doesn't even steal AP, it just decrease AP regen, at least that's what say the builder
The actual AP drains is a tactic just above that skill: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mt=5210&t=
It's 10 seconds duration, 20 seconds cooldown. It's so bad that is a constant 25% AP regen reduction, without accounting that you can also slot an AP drain to further improve it to having an enemy as good as disarmed 2/3 of the time. Now seriously, has Mara better skills? Yeah. Is this a bad skill? Hell no.
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you can easilly counter it with an AP pot, you dont really cut the damage by 50%Ototo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:23 pm
Whr did I say that? I just linked the skill for reference. It doesn't need to be given to you for it to be drained from the enemy. You confuse "drain" with "steal": https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... lish/drain . Yes, it decrease AP regen by a whopping 50% for 10 seconds, so it does not simply "just do it", but effectively stop entirely the chances to use any skill in 1/2 of the GCDs of its duration if the enemy was low in AP to start with, in other words, if the enemy was at <20% of his AP pool when the effect was applied, he will only performs 5 skills in the next 10 seconds instead of 10 skills. Would I take the skill? No, cause surprisingly the Mara has way better things in the other trees, and the skill is not even decent compared to Monstro Morale drain, and Brut Increase of damage, but that's how crazy the Mara is, that the skill to decrease enemy damage potential by half is not worthy.
The actual AP drains is a tactic just above that skill: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mt=5210&t=
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Re: If WL singletarget dmg gets nerfed,do they get a stronger aoe then?
Ototo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:23 pmWhr did I say that? I just linked the skill for reference. It doesn't need to be given to you for it to be drained from the enemy. You confuse "drain" with "steal": https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... lish/drain . Yes, it decrease AP regen by a whopping 50% for 10 seconds, so it does not simply "just do it", but effectively stop entirely the chances to use any skill in 1/2 of the GCDs of its duration if the enemy was low in AP to start with, in other words, if the enemy was at <20% of his AP pool when the effect was applied, he will only performs 5 skills in the next 10 seconds instead of 10 skills. Would I take the skill? No, cause surprisingly the Mara has way better things in the other trees, and the skill is not even decent compared to Monstro Morale drain, and Brut Increase of damage, but that's how crazy the Mara is, that the skill to decrease enemy damage potential by half is not worthy.
The actual AP drains is a tactic just above that skill: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mt=5210&t=
It's 10 seconds duration, 20 seconds cooldown. It's so bad that is a constant 25% AP regen reduction, without accounting that you can also slot an AP drain to further improve it to having an enemy as good as disarmed 2/3 of the time. Now seriously, has Mara better skills? Yeah. Is this a bad skill? Hell no.
Ototo listen to me please.
Draining swipe has 10 cd and 5 sec duration usable only on savagery stance.
With lots of ap regen bonus is one of the worst ability in this game.
No damage weak debuff.
Slot ap tactic ? Only usable in wb vs wb with savagery/monstro spec ( but since devs killed thunderous blow all aoe mara are brut/monstro )
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Re: If WL singletarget dmg gets nerfed,do they get a stronger aoe then?
Is the career builder information wrong?
I disagree and I think that organized groups of any size can make use of it, yet again, the Mara mid and right tree have so freaking crazy skills that, why even bother? You are comparing a great skill with an awesome skill. Mara is like that, and was in live too.(...)
With lots of ap regen bonus is one of the worst ability in this game.
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I don't understand this part, sorry.(...)
No damage weak debuff.
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I think that this is 100% viable, but as said multiple times, suboptimal cause of the freaking crazy skills in mid and right trees: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... ,5191,5196(...)
Slot ap tactic ? Only usable in wb vs wb with savagery/monstro spec ( but since devs killed thunderous blow all aoe mara are brut/monstro )
And at rr70 this other, again crazily powerful but suboptimal for Mara, build: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... ,5191,5196
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On a 3 mins cooldown vs the 20 of the skill. Yet I see your point and I agree that most 1vs1 fights are over in 30-40 seconds, except the ones we should apply this are 24vs24, and sieges. Those tend to last a lot more than a couple minutes.Ysaran wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:30 pmyou can easilly counter it with an AP pot, you dont really cut the damage by 50%Ototo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:23 pm
Whr did I say that? I just linked the skill for reference. It doesn't need to be given to you for it to be drained from the enemy. You confuse "drain" with "steal": https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... lish/drain . Yes, it decrease AP regen by a whopping 50% for 10 seconds, so it does not simply "just do it", but effectively stop entirely the chances to use any skill in 1/2 of the GCDs of its duration if the enemy was low in AP to start with, in other words, if the enemy was at <20% of his AP pool when the effect was applied, he will only performs 5 skills in the next 10 seconds instead of 10 skills. Would I take the skill? No, cause surprisingly the Mara has way better things in the other trees, and the skill is not even decent compared to Monstro Morale drain, and Brut Increase of damage, but that's how crazy the Mara is, that the skill to decrease enemy damage potential by half is not worthy.
The actual AP drains is a tactic just above that skill: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... mt=5210&t=
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