[SM] Whispering Wind problems

[gke96]

I will complain about some problems with Whispering Wind here.

First of all I don't know what the person who initially designed the ability was thinking, but the "silence" is a major DOWNSIDE to the ability. It just gives free immunity and this is definitely not an ability you use in order to silence people. Searching for targets to not give free immunity is a major pain.

Secondly this is a melee ability and it is defendable. It hits 2 times if at least one of them hits the buff is activated but if both of them are defended (happens in zergy fights sometimes if you cant find a non-tank target) the buff is not activated.

So you have to bother picking a non-tank target which you don't mind giving immunity to or already immune in the middle of the fight.

These makes WW a huge pain to use and it is definitely not an enjoyable experience.

Suggestion: Put the silence to Dazzling Strike instead.

[Gurf]

Considering how important this skill is for overall faction balance something definitely needs to be done to balance this with Waaaggghhh.

Even though BO's need to use a tactic slot it isn't enough considering how influential these abilities are. For balance either WW should be made undefendable or the cooldown on Waaagghhh should be doubled to 40 seconds when used with cooldown tactic.

Also combining it with silence is a double negative blow which should be altered yeah. Probably the people who designed it didn't realise what would happen to classes like SW and SH so the cooldown decreaser probably wasn't as important then as it is now to balance.

[Likeaboss]

Pretty easy, just make it a AoE Ability with low or even no damage, doesnt matter...
remove silence on it and let it activate without target like BO

[Gurf]

I would suggest you put this into a suggestions and feedback post as the Devs may not see this forum, explaining the reasons as they are good and justifiable reasons

Move silence to Dazzling Strike - as the main thing you want is to trigger the cooldown rather than give free immunity
Make WW undefendable to balance it with Waaggghhh, which still retains the advantage (even though it has to use a tactic slot) of not having to be in melee range so can be pre loaded and used more easily

Or make it aoe.

Or create a tactic which makes it aoe

[emiliorv]

Considering how important this skill is for overall faction

Its toooooo important for overal faction but SM is the least played tank...what a joke

Im not saying that this ability doenst need a review (maybe, really dont care) but arguing that this is sooo important when really you (as a faction) are not using it, is fcking comical...

[gke96]

Considering how important this skill is for overall faction

Its toooooo important for overal faction but SM is the least played tank...what a joke

Im not saying that this ability doenst need a review (maybe, really dont care) but arguing that this is sooo important when really you (as a faction) are not using it, is fcking comical...

well cooldown decreasers are really important only if you are not a pug solo player without a speck of idea on group setups

[Gurf]

Considering how important this skill is for overall faction

Its toooooo important for overal faction but SM is the least played tank...what a joke

Im not saying that this ability doenst need a review (maybe, really dont care) but arguing that this is sooo important when really you (as a faction) are not using it, is fcking comical...

See how a SW and SH perform without one at warband and City level and then comment.

Looks like you are just trolling again in a legitimately decent discussion thread

[Ysaran]

I agree that WW may need some love, but please don't start talking about BOs and Choppas and how Destru have more CD decreaser and life is sooooo unfair, uhg!!!!!
The reason why WW need attention are well exposed by the OP, and they have nothing to do with any greenskin.
And yes, CD deacreaser are f-ing important to any coordinated group. If you don't get why whisp me and I'll tell you, this is not the place

[CytheX]

Change the blessing of heaven tattic in something like the black orc, and tie the cd reduction to wrath of hoet, remo the cd fron wispering wind, and set back the silence to 5 like it was originally. Problem solved

[gke96]

Change the blessing of heaven tattic in something like the black orc, and tie the cd reduction to wrath of hoet, remo the cd fron wispering wind, and set back the silence to 5 like it was originally. Problem solved

I disagree. Making such large changes for this small problem is unnecessary. Also mirroring classes is not a good habit.