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[SM] Whispering Wind problems

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teiloh
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#61 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:35 pm

It's more accessible and easier to use, so effective uptime is higher. The SM had 50% uptime because you need to reach a target, land two hits, avoid giving free immunities, be in perfect balance, use 2-3 GCDs, and spec up to x13 in the tree.

All are huge drawbacks.

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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#62 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:48 pm

One of the best abilities in game on a meta class - no buffs needed
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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teiloh
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#63 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:55 pm

Bozzax wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:48 pm One of the best abilities in game on a meta class - no buffs needed
In that case, deletion of WAAAGH and setting Chop Fasta back to 20/60 is needed.

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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#64 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:59 pm

No but do feel free to create a nerf thread if you think BO needs one ;)
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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teiloh
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#65 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:40 pm

"It's fair that Destro gets to have two better versions of "one of the best abilities in the game" on two meta classes"

The WAAAAGH removal is probably coming, if you check some old dev posts.

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Bozzax
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#66 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:04 pm

Could happen who cares feel free to champion the nerf train.

Fact remain buffing the strongest ability on a meta class is retarderad.
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#67 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:41 pm

Bozzax wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:04 pm Fact remain buffing the strongest ability on a meta class is retarderad.
They are a meta class because of the fact they are the only class on order with this meta buff. Lack of options doesn't automatically make them balanced against destro classes.

If order only had 1 healer class that was worse than every destro healer, they would still be a meta class for order. Would that mean they should never get a buff simply because order is still forced to bring them to function well?
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#68 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:31 pm

SM has the same mechanics as BO, and is basically the same class. BO has option for more raw damage, SM gets a lot more spirit damage. Chosen/BO is meta on destro side. same goes for order. Its not just the WW buff that makes SM meta, lol.
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#69 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:09 pm

Detangler wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:31 pm SM has the same mechanics as BO, and is basically the same class. BO has option for more raw damage, SM gets a lot more spirit damage. Chosen/BO is meta on destro side. same goes for order. Its not just the WW buff that makes SM meta, lol.
not exactly.....with out ww on sm order wb meta would be knight ib stack....or just 2xknight
Karak Azgal - Haron WP
Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
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- Chaeron - SM
- Nogrun - magnet eng
- Cheron - i want sorc Black Horror skill for my BW ;)

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teiloh
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Re: [SM] Whispering Wind problems

Post#70 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:35 am

Bozzax wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:04 pm Fact remain buffing the strongest ability on a meta class is retarderad.
So it's fair for Destro to have two better versions of the strongest ability on two meta classes (:

Either buff WW or bring Choppa/BO back to pre-RoR state. No other options.

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