T3 is dead, at least give us the rats.

[Razid1987]

The problem is you'll reach lvl 32 while still only being lvl 20 in renown. This means you can't even buy renown greens anymore. So you're doubly gimped when you reach T4. QQ

Two words:

Auction
House

[Kali14]

On 32 lvl you go farming Ruin armour and doing T4 epic quests and in this gear can normal play on Tier 4, being 20 RR and get even for 5000 renown for good SC.

[Loans]

The problem is you'll reach lvl 32 while still only being lvl 20 in renown. This means you can't even buy renown greens anymore. So you're doubly gimped when you reach T4. QQ

Farming ruin can be good idea , level + gear at the same time

[roadkillrobin]

A fun fix imo would be to have weekend events maybe 1 day a week, were people who debolster have Renown boost to a point were you actually gain more Renown from debolstering in a certain tier then you would get from t4. That would probobly liven up the action in lower tiers aswell as being a good upportunity to level up alts who's stuck in that tier.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

On 32 lvl you go farming Ruin armour and doing T4 epic quests and in this gear can normal play on Tier 4, being 20 RR and get even for 5000 renown for good SC.

Wrong: You get 2000-maximum 3500 Renown per win (3500 if it is a "long" fight)
They nerfed it over time TOO HARD.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

A fun fix imo would be to have weekend events maybe 1 day a week, were people who debolster have Renown boost to a point were you actually gain more Renown from debolstering in a certain tier then you would get from t4. That would probobly liven up the action in lower tiers aswell as being a good upportunity to level up alts who's stuck in that tier.

They just need to f**** fix influence and renown for T3. At least triple it! Influence was already way to low anyway in T3 even before the "Nail into Coffin" patch.

[roadkillrobin]

A fun fix imo would be to have weekend events maybe 1 day a week, were people who debolster have Renown boost to a point were you actually gain more Renown from debolstering in a certain tier then you would get from t4. That would probobly liven up the action in lower tiers aswell as being a good upportunity to level up alts who's stuck in that tier.

They just need to f**** fix influence and renown for T3. At least triple it! Influence was already way to low anyway in T3 even before the "Nail into Coffin" patch.

They need people to play the maps nothing else tbh. They made a debolster system wich could fix this, if the carrot to debolster is high enough people will come and play them. And it will fix the lower tiers population problems. Running t4 maps over and over for people in t4 gets pretty reptative aswell so it's a win win for everyone. But aslong as the renown rewards in t4 is higher then what you get from debolster people don't really use it. And if it's consistantly higher in lower tiers then noone would run t4. So it must be limited to maybe 1 max 2 days a week.

[hogo2hogo]

-Getting contribution at Ruin (T4) PQ's starts at level 28, but you cannot equip them until 35-36.

-Epic quests (for weaponry) are available at level 32 but i think usable at 36 (??).

-There are numerous of Tome unlocks available to obtain somewhat decent jewellery. or use the Auction house for the "enervating" jewels that give +20 wounds / +20 str/bs/int/tough/wp
-Travelling quests in t3 also give somewhat decent exp, you travel around and make sure you talk to the "rally masters" as well, they give some free exp as well. Even the NPC's reward being social!

-You can always debolster to get that supa sweet influence reward belt -when/if there is action.

-Worst cases of a player being too low renown they can either join scenarios with points (such as Reikland factory or nordenwatch which is also the "pug" option atm, or follow the zerg, cap bos, hunt around. But even at purely PVE you can stand a somewhat decent chance of playing in t4, always depending on your class and setup.
(I am not endorsing this zergorian option, I would rather prefer that rank be capped to your renown rank, but I am just saying that there ARE options for almost everything. The point of whether those options are good/difficult/boring/lame/leechy/antipvp or whatever adjective you want to use is a whole other story).

PS: I was fooling around with the "Armory" option and I noticed several people being r40/rr1-10. Sick! Even when I was sometimes powerleveled, i used to play SOME scenarios at least.. r40/rr1 is -to some extent- amazing

[BrockRiefenstahl]

Spoiler:

A fun fix imo would be to have weekend events maybe 1 day a week, were people who debolster have Renown boost to a point were you actually gain more Renown from debolstering in a certain tier then you would get from t4. That would probobly liven up the action in lower tiers aswell as being a good upportunity to level up alts who's stuck in that tier.

They just need to f**** fix influence and renown for T3. At least triple it! Influence was already way to low anyway in T3 even before the "Nail into Coffin" patch.

They need people to play the maps nothing else tbh. They made a debolster system wich could fix this, if the carrot to debolster is high enough people will come and play them. And it will fix the lower tiers population problems. Running t4 maps over and over for people in t4 gets pretty reptative aswell so it's a win win for everyone. But aslong as the renown rewards in t4 is higher then what you get from debolster people don't really use it. And if it's consistantly higher in lower tiers then noone would run t4. So it must be limited to maybe 1 max 2 days a week.[/quote]

They don’t make any effort unless they are finished with their new T3 rework concept.
And ppl would play it if it would not be blatantly obvious that they can’t even fill 1 piece of influence bar the Whole T3.
It was already hard before to gain 1 or 2 parts of Influence in a single Zone before you outlevel it. Also, keep in mind many people do the T3 Weapon Quest. This alone gives them 6 damn levels, (no one gives a crap about those low-level SC weapons that are WAY to expensive for their use! (remember you get it always at the final 2 levels per bracket, this alone makes them obsolete for T3+T2 also) The SC weapons are way to expensive for their “stats” It is a complete exaggerated grind in T4 also.

Look, RoR claims WE FOCUS ON RVR! But whole community takes it as status quo to farm god damn Ruin set. PVE after that you have infinitive grinds in T4 (no new sets insight).

So instead of making renown (at least to lvl 40) easier and the gear especially from SC cheaper, they claim  ohhh you lazy peoples don’t want to do something for your gear.

People get tired at lvl 40 as soon as they got half decent gear and don’t even bother to do all this dumb grind on another toon. That’s why T3 is dead, that’s why they stop leveling.
They stick to their 1-2 Mains and don’t even bother, to start all the hassle with renownfarming again. They rather quit the game before starting new classes because its DEMOTIVATING.

Sure, people want to PLAY, but it is not fun, to get your ass kicked 24/7 from fully geared 1 man armies. With pitifully 20 renown where you need to spend all in parry to not be complete 1sec fingerfood (takeaway lol) while they going for their “real” target. The SC grind is REAL. As I wrote before… the 2 - 3,5k Renown is just laughable as “catch-up mechanic”. And on top of it the Weapons (nerfed) and 880 emblems (no comment on that). Most classes would stick with the T4 easy mode Questweapon because some of those buffs are way better than a freaking 880 badge weapon. Think about it.

Now sure some “oldschoolers” will come and try to pretend its all fine. Its not, and the newer players are always the pawn sacrifice.

Don’t get all this wrong, its from my perspective in like 3 month. I invested a **** of time and leveled MANY chars into the T3 brackets. But out of T3 into T4 its just to much of a hassle to catch up. Not only about gear but Renown gains are way to low on this server. (even if they buffed it at some points, that doesn’t make up for the overall loss)

[Combi]

Doing the 3 epic quests plus the skaven quest line will take you to out of t3 nicely.
Scenarios (if they pop and you win) also reward absurd amount of xp. Seen one with an average 130k rewarded to the victor.